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Originally Posted by simpleisbest
Not quite sure you understand the rules regarding port options. They can be installed AFTER you initially purchase the car, you know. You do not need to purchased the options "as installed" from the factory to be class legal.
Also, it is a huge misconception that Street(Stock) classes are for beginners. The class are designed to be the lowest level of prep, thus putting more emphasis on driver vs set-up. If you look at the group of drivers that regularly compete in the Street classes nationally, you'll find many of the champs are very far from being beginners.
The TRD parts still do not take away from the "low prep definition" since they are standardized and non-adjustable, ie...if you are competing against someone else in a TRD equipped FR-S, it's still comes down to the driving  |
I guess I got confused by what someone told me at our last event. I see that you are correct:
Page 71, Section 13 of the rules:
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Except for modifications authorized below, Street Category cars must be run as specified by the manufacturer with only standard equipment as defined by these Rules. This requirement refers not just to individual parts, but to combinations thereof which would have been ordered together on a specific car. [...]
Option package conversions may be performed between specific vehicles of a particular make and model, but only between configurations from within a particular model year. Such conversions must be totally complete and the resultant car must meet all requirements of this section.[...]
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I don't think Street Classes are
for beginners. Beginners
typically race in street classes. Therefore, any action undertaken by the SEB to alter Street Class will dis-proportionally impact beginners, and care needs to be taken not to dissuade participation.
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Originally Posted by Locust
Seriously the performance difference between the TRD equipped FR-S and the non-TRD FR-S/BRZ is not significant enough to warrant pushing it to B-Street. A lot of you are acting like it's a 1 second, for sure victory kind of advantage. Are you at a slight disadvantage? Yes. Is it too much to overcome with better driving? No.
There's not a single class in SCCA where there isn't at least one type of car at a disadvantage. It's impossible to make it fair for everyone.
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I don't actually think the FRS with TRD parts should be pushed to BS. I guess I didn't really make that clear at 2 AM when I was posting
I agree that the TRD springs don't make a drastic enough difference to do
anything about it. I was simply proposing a possible remedy if it were deemed a big enough problem.