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Old 12-17-2015, 02:31 PM   #234
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Originally Posted by Jaden View Post
I'm afraid you fail in the logic department...

Failed rods being a fact does NOT logically support your argument that the rods are too weak...It merely supports that rods can fail under boost...There is NO inference of causality there at all...

Jaden

p.s. this was a quote of FRS Justin saying this/


Per Webster dictionary


Definition of fact

1 : something that really exists or has occurred <Space travel is now a fact.> EX. People running high boost have broken rods is now a fact
2 : a true piece of information <“I just know for a fact that she has a huge family to feed!” — Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows EX. I just know for a fact people have broken rods under high boost.


If you can't see it now I can't help you /

but the quote button didn't work...
uhhhh..... I really don't see where you are coming from... So if the rods fail at high boost, and stronger rods don't fail as much at the high boost, then it stands to reason that the rods are too weak for the high boost? I don't see the mental gymnastics you are trying to do.

Rods will eventually fail as you increase cylinder pressure * rod temperature. So if you want to run ___ boost, and that brakes the rods, then your rods were too weak for your application.

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Originally Posted by Jaden View Post
UMMM, in direct injection applications fuel pressures can be 1000 bar... does that mean they are F/I?>??lol

Jaden
Soooo, do you understand the difference between oxidizer and fuel? Can you run an engine on fuel alone? can you run an engine on oxidizer alone?

Fuel is on the OTHER side of the equation. Car motors are limited by the oxygen. If you inject pure 02 straight into the cylinder instead of N2O, then I would argue that's basically FI.

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Originally Posted by Jaden View Post
You are not changing the pressure of the air charge which is necessary for it to be considered F/I, it is the exact same as ambient pressure (just with a richer O2 content because of it's chemical composition).

It isn't all motor, which is what you seem to be confusing with F/I vs. N/A...

There's a reason people use the term all motor rather than N/A...

Jaden
The whole semantics of what is FI and what is NA is pretty lame, as I said in the previous post. And why is everyone trying to jump on the OP. The statement that brought this out was CSG Mike that said N2O was NA. So you agree with the OP then that CSG Mike was wrong and it doesn't count as NA.

I understand CSG Mike is a stand up guy, a pillar of this community, and a wickedly fast driver, but that doesn't mean everyone needs to gang up on the OP. Especially if they can't do it civilly.
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