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Originally Posted by Justin.b
I'm really just most concerned with overall weight. If the car is light enough it can get away with bad tires, crap suspension design, solid rear axle, etc.
I had a few 3rd gen camaro/firebirds and spent decent time and money on the suspension. when I totaled my last one I ended up picking up an S12 200sx just to drive while I looked for another f-body.
The stupid Datsun on pep boys tires handled way better than my upgraded gm's running wide z rated tires. I was a convert, and never looked back. I don't think I've owned a car that weighs 3000 pounds or more since then (S12 200SX x 3 ~2500lbs, S13 240SX ~2700lbs, 1998 Civic ~2400lbs, 2005 xb ~2500lbs, 2001 Miata ~2400lbs, FR-s ~2800lbs).
Edit: Damnit. I own a Subaru Outback, but that is pretty much used like a pickup truck.
-Justin
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cannot blame you for that but just FYI, GM and Ford came a long away, and obviously they're light years ahead of 3rd Gen Camaro or Mustang, even the existing Camaro (Gen 5) has received so much upgrades after 2012 so the changes are huge even within the same generation , (2010 vs 2015) ..while they're too busy competing with each other, they left the European cars in dust
nowadays GM and Ford makes a lot faster sports cars with a considerably lower price tag than those European sports cars including : M4, S4, AMGs ..etc.. my friend who owns both Camaro SS 1LE and a supercharged Miata gets similar lap times in our local tracks and swears that the 1LE has a similar turn in and handling response ..many people say the same for the GT-R, maybe because it has huge/sticky 305/30/19 tires all around and the cutting edge spool valve suspension that is used in F1 cars