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Originally Posted by glamcem
of course comparing a muscle car to a lightweight sport car is also weird, they're just different ..we were just discussing the value aspect  price/performance and weight/hp are two important things a real sports car enthusiast , right?
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I'm really just most concerned with overall weight. If the car is light enough it can get away with bad tires, crap suspension design, solid rear axle, etc.
I had a few 3rd gen camaro/firebirds and spent decent time and money on the suspension. when I totaled my last one I ended up picking up an S12 200sx just to drive while I looked for another f-body.
The stupid Datsun on pep boys tires handled way better than my upgraded gm's running wide z rated tires. I was a convert, and never looked back. I don't think I've owned a car that weighs 3000 pounds or more since then (S12 200SX x 3 ~2500lbs, S13 240SX ~2700lbs, 1998 Civic ~2400lbs, 2005 xb ~2500lbs, 2001 Miata ~2400lbs, FR-s ~2800lbs).
Edit: Damnit. I own a Subaru Outback, but that is pretty much used like a pickup truck.
-Justin