[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by glamcem

yikes, if that's the case that's a major disadvantage for those who want to track these cars..I personally don't like the clutch pack differential systems but prefer mechanical/torsen type systems.. my friend had to change his LSDs on his both Miata and Camaro 1LE because of that

speaking of the price I feel that the price tag on Golf R s and STIs are not that competitive as much as they used to be also ..back in 2003 both STI and Evo brought so much power and car for the money and they were direct competitors of M3s and even base Corvette so they were real bargain..
that's not the case anymore, V6 Camaro now makes 330+hp and weighs about the same and has a starting MSRP of mid to high $20Ks .. also let's not forget that most people will consider this car as "domestic" and would expect deep incentives like other Ford cars, even if we believe it's worth the price.. so paying over MSRP doesn't really make any sense to me (financially)

I don't mind clutch pack ones if done well. My 20 year old BMW clutch diff still works just fine - but it's not all fancy and electronic.

Paying over MSRP *never* makes sense.


Huge grain of salt of course until the car is in others hands, but Ford Performance engineers have admitted privately that they stopped using the EVO for comparison as it was no longer a comparison. These are Ford employees so again a huge grain of salt, but supposedly the RS makes them look slow on track.


We shall see eventually.