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Old 10-13-2015, 06:58 PM   #3035
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Originally Posted by strat61caster View Post
How much noise were the tires making? Are you positive you were already reaching the limits of grip or was it your first time toeing the line at those speeds and it's possible that there's another 1/10th of capability left in the car you're not accessing?

Sorry, I just find it hard to believe that with significantly better grip (Rivals to Primacy's) you're lagging that far behind in the same section, my money is on either there's more grip that you weren't using or your tires were worn out before you got there. Check out how much tire noise CSG Mike gets on this session. Now I'm not advocating you drift every corner, only that there may be more grip than you think, I am working on stepping up to that limit as well, finding that limit is not easy.




I'm on stock springs/dampers as well and I've been fighting understeer understeer understeer, all oversteer has been driver induced (and a good chunk of understeer as well). Camber works wonders on this car and may be something your buddy also has a big advantage on you with coilovers, I'm up to running about -3.0 degrees camber autocrossing up front (no adjustment in the rear yet, @ ~-1.4 degrees) and I'll be trying more soon.
I think it may be a variety of factors. The tires are pretty warn to begin with, it was a used set I picked up last minute for the autox season, and Rivals actually tend to perform better with slipangle. That being said, because it was my first track event, I probably wasn't pushing it as hard as I could have been either. I wasn't letting it drift too much, and I could tell the instructors wouldn't be comfortable with someone so green pushing a car like that at those speeds in a corner. Like I said, I was also running it just in VSC Sport Mode. So I wonder if the aids stepping in had an affect on how the car felt too.

I plan to get a fresh set of tires on it for next year. I'll probably do my first track day next season and see how it feels with different tires. From there assess what to do next. I'm sure the majority of my problems are driver input. lol
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