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fumanchu1 · 10-08-2015, 02:24 PM

Well sorry that happened to you buddy but it's one thing to claim something in court and another to be able to formulate it where it can't be refuted with legal arguments. Sadly I agree it's not necessarily what arguments you bring to the table but how well you are able to formulate it and how well you can pick apart other arguments that they make against you (something I excel at doing, I always try to attack the cop's and attorney's credibility flip there words around, if they leave place for interpretation lead them to walk into the wrong interpretation).

Had a case once where I got the credibility of the officer dismissed simply by finding small absences of details and the way they had worded their statement (one of those was about how I had an unbalanced step/measure[was in French so it was actually demarche] while waiting for an elevator which I refuted that I couldn't have a unbalanced step while standing still. Also said he saw the top of my car belt meaning

I didn't have it buckled to which my response was a photo of my car where it's missing the little button that prevents the belt from dropping meaning my belt is always on the ground if not buckled and therefore office could never have seen it, never said whether or not I had it on just demolished his statement without addressing whether it was on or not)

Basically you try to make them walk into a trap, create a hypothetical situation that will help confirm your statement and destroy his. I.e. So sir you state you saw the top of the buckle hanging off the side of my red sentra? Correct, could you then explain why in this photo there is clearly a ford E-450 with no windows blocking your field of view from my car? huh..huh Could you also explain how you could've seen the buckle in this photo when clearly the belt, buickled or not would not be visible to you outside the car? huh well... And can you confirm 100% that there were no other red vehicles similar to mine in the same time lapse and that the information you relayed to your partner was not vague enough for him to mistake my red car for another? Well I'm pretty sure but I can't be a 100% since... Well then sir you agree there is a possibility that you may have inadvertently stopped the wrong vehicle, etc.

10-08-2015, 02:24 PM	#49
fumanchu1 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2015 Drives: 2013 Brz C38 (bought not built :P) Location: Gatineau, Qc, Canada Posts: 1,914 Thanks: 422 Thanked 1,249 Times in 802 Posts Mentioned: 8 Post(s) Tagged: 6 Thread(s)	Well sorry that happened to you buddy but it's one thing to claim something in court and another to be able to formulate it where it can't be refuted with legal arguments. Sadly I agree it's not necessarily what arguments you bring to the table but how well you are able to formulate it and how well you can pick apart other arguments that they make against you (something I excel at doing, I always try to attack the cop's and attorney's credibility flip there words around, if they leave place for interpretation lead them to walk into the wrong interpretation). Had a case once where I got the credibility of the officer dismissed simply by finding small absences of details and the way they had worded their statement (one of those was about how I had an unbalanced step/measure[was in French so it was actually demarche] while waiting for an elevator which I refuted that I couldn't have a unbalanced step while standing still. Also said he saw the top of my car belt meaning I didn't have it buckled to which my response was a photo of my car where it's missing the little button that prevents the belt from dropping meaning my belt is always on the ground if not buckled and therefore office could never have seen it, never said whether or not I had it on just demolished his statement without addressing whether it was on or not) Basically you try to make them walk into a trap, create a hypothetical situation that will help confirm your statement and destroy his. I.e. So sir you state you saw the top of the buckle hanging off the side of my red sentra? Correct, could you then explain why in this photo there is clearly a ford E-450 with no windows blocking your field of view from my car? huh..huh Could you also explain how you could've seen the buckle in this photo when clearly the belt, buickled or not would not be visible to you outside the car? huh well... And can you confirm 100% that there were no other red vehicles similar to mine in the same time lapse and that the information you relayed to your partner was not vague enough for him to mistake my red car for another? Well I'm pretty sure but I can't be a 100% since... Well then sir you agree there is a possibility that you may have inadvertently stopped the wrong vehicle, etc.