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Originally Posted by dat 86 guy

Hi all,

I have a few questions, I'm looking to get help from anyone that might be knowledgable on the subject or have advice as to what I should do.

I purchased my 2013 FR-S used, in July of 2014. Now let me say this, I couldn't have been happier, I'm 21 and was finally able to afford a car I really wanted, this was also my first car purchase 100% by myself. Which turned out to be a mistake, and I'll explain why.

The dealership I purchased my Scion from was King's Toyota in Cincinnati, Ohio. When I originally financed the car, it was for $24,XXX. It was immediately upside down due to my trade in being $2,000 less than what I owed. (First mistake, but I was well aware of this.)

Second, this car had just arrived at the dealer, it wasn't available for sale yet, but they did the inspections and were ready to sell it in a couple days. When I got back, ready to sign the papers and drive home in my new vehicle. They told me the car had been in a previous accident, but all they replaced was the front bumper and front passenger, tiny corner window. This being my first major purchase, I didn't think anything of it.

No big deal right? (Second mistake)

Now, I didn't sign any paper work regarding the accident or damage. They also didn't show me a CarFax and I also didn't think to ask for it as the title was clean, which I did ask about. (Third mistake)

This year, I drove to a few dealerships looking to test drive a few cars, something a bit bigger.

While I had no immediate intention of getting into something new, one of the dealers asked if I wanted to see my trade in value, so I said, why not.

Now remember, I payed $22,000 for this car.

They offered me a whopping $12,000...

While depreciation in these cars is pretty impressive. At 42,000 miles and "really good" condition, this was mind boggling to me.

Right as I was about to ask, "why?". They showed me the CarFax.

The car had a previously replaced engine at 6k miles and a taillight replacement all done by the same dealership I purchased it from, due to an accident by the original buyer. Not to mention the air bags did deploy.

This information was 100% new to me. All that was disclosed to me was the front bumper replacement and side window.

I went to get copies of all the sales paperwork for my purchase (without mentioning why). They told me they couldn't do it, I then asked to speak to a manger and all he did was take my name and number and said they'd mail it to me.

This was two+ weeks ago and no calls or letters in the mail.

My question to you guys is, do I contact the dealer?

Do I get a lawyer?

What might my options be?

I'd appreciate anything you guys could do or insight you might have.

If you have any questions, I might have left out I'll respond as soon as I can.

Sorry man I see two routes:
1) Get a lawyer who will then on your behalf do the thinks you said i.e contact the dealer and find your options.
2) Realize this is essentially your fault, I know it seems harsh, but you bought a used vehicle with no warranty expressed in written form or implied, and it is your responsibility to do the due diligence on the vehicle i.e. going to a dmv and seeing the vehicle info based on V.I.N., and paying for CarFax on the vehicle or asking the dealer to pay for it otherwise walking

Take this statement with a grain of salt:
"
While most used car sales are "as is" transactions, sellers do have some obligations under used car law. The main obligation that you have as a seller in many states is to disclose whether the car is a salvage vehicle, meaning, was it ever in an accident and declared a total loss? If the car in question was not repainted because of an accident and doesn't have a salvage title, based on used car law, the buyer can't require you to take it back based on the fact that it was painted.

Based on used car law, the duty here is on the buyer to inspect the car, ask his questions, and make sure the car meets his needs up front, before the transaction takes place. Because he didn't do that in this case and didn't confirm whether the car was painted or repainted, it is his loss that he didn't check and you're not going to have to give back the money or pay any damages if he does sue you. Based on used car law, he has no legal grounds based on the set of facts presented and his case should be dismissed if he tries to bring it."



Honestly, you can take action and find out for yourself, but what I believe will happen is you'll lose more money getting a lawyer and losing a case, you're a 21 year old guy that had a honey moon phase over getting it any who and didn't do any digging on a USED car. You enjoyed the car regardless of it having been in an accident so why not just keep enjoying it?