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Originally Posted by Packofcrows
Wait till you get it and know you want to keep it. IMO buying a twin with the intention of making it fast, should not be your first reason to buy it.
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I am not buying it (edit: although I plan to when the lease is up.) It's a corporate lease, and my truck lease is up. I did the math on leasing the truck vs leasing the FR-S and renting a truck when I need one. The FR-S is cheaper per month, will cost less to operate, and I use my truck for it's truck abilities roughly ten times a year (about half that is for friends.) Now it will be either time to bite the bullet and rent a truck, or find a friend with a truck to help out haha.
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Originally Posted by Packofcrows
As techy's here have stated wait till the break in period. That way your engine will deform/mold into your driving attitude and habits. Many say 1k, I was raised with old cars and the belief that 10k is more like it. I wait until 2.5k personally.
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Thanks for the recommendation, I'll keep that in mind. Honestly I might just not care since speed is not my goal. Learning to drive well is my goal. For a time I owned an 85 SR5 Corolla, I loved it but the previous owner did not take care of it and it was more than I could handle being in college so it's sitting on my parents side yard collecting dust. I tried selling it but everyone wants 6k for 1k... not even worth my time to sell it HAH... Hopefully when I get more time I'll turn it into a track beater.
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Originally Posted by Packofcrows
e85 and a good tune, exhaust, pulley, intake, header...etc w/o turbo might get you near there.
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There are no E85 stations near me so that's kind of off the table. Plus doesn't using E85 result in lower MPG?
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Originally Posted by Packofcrows
Sure, it's possible. Do what a few old Mustang fans are doing down here and add in electric batteries or find a diesel set up... lol 40mpg on straightaways with 60mph, no extra weight is possible! I've hit that on 300mile trips. I don't even think you'd hit 25mpg in town with a turbo. Some argue that you get +3 or so mpg but I don't agree. Maybe in an auto. Past 45mpg I highly doubt you can, but there is a funny picture on the forums where someone reset their mpg and drove downhill and took a pic of the mpg reading at 120mpg+, so if you just drive down hill, you can achieve this!
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Lol at the 120mpg I would always see that on downhills off throttle when it would cap at 121mpg. As for the MPG thing, it would be cool but tinkering with the car to get good mpg
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Originally Posted by Packofcrows
The twins are not an econo-box. I wish they'd hit 30mpg in town and 40 in HWY at hwy speeds, but they don't. Again, dont buy the twin as a mpg/hp tune machine for DD. If you want hp and mpg, imo there's the mustangs (eco boost?) and Fiesta (?). I'm not a fan, but they do have a a tad more mpg/hp. Ours are mini go-karts with a big heart. Driving is majestic and I've yet to become bored of it.
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I have to stay within the Toyota family (corporate lease.) That said, I love the idea of the car. I love the way the car feels to drive. I wish it had zero nannies like the AE86 (such majesty,) but at the same time I am sure there will be days where I don't feel like being constantly alert and happy to let the nannies take care of me a little.
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Originally Posted by Packofcrows
P.s. remember too, 12.5:1 compression for this engine is tad high for FI. That's whats stopping me from S/C or Turbo. Many have successfully done it, though.
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Yea, there was a tidbit I wrote before about having to do engine work for FI. I was talking about this kind of indirectly. 12.5:1 is real high for pump gas and FI, but it can be done. I would imagine e85 or e100 would make it much easier.
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Also, I drove at 60mph-65mph, shifted at 2.5-3k for that trip, 90%+ hwy driving and no a/c whole time. 53 miles imo is not enough as a testing area. Try 100 minimum as an 'estimate' and a whole week of driving those same roads in order to create a good solid estimation.
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I never use AC, and I'm from CA. Friends and family are always like why? Why, because it's bad for our enviroment to be running heat pumps. Thermo dictates that we are making more heat by moving heat around than by just accepting that we live in a damned desert. No reason to make the world hotter for future generations.
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Originally Posted by Packofcrows
Don't forget altitude, pressure and temperature help or hinder mpg. Auto will get better mpg because of the transmission. Don't forget.
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I have never owned an automatic vehicle, and I never will baring physical disability or necessity. My father's FR-S is auto, I feel lazy driving when coming from my truck.
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Originally Posted by Ultramaroon
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I would love to and I really appreciate the offer, but I am in the process of building a Stirling engine and have pretty much no time right now (3D printer is printing it's little heart out as I type, has been for ten hours, will be for probably another ten.) Also, my 86 won't be here until ~Sept 29th... The day after I go back to class and lose more of my life
haha. I was told that it would be ~August 29th and I was hoping to drive to CA before Summer was over so I could get the car broken in, but no... Now I will have to figure out how to make time on my weekends to go places. Maybe next time I will come on up if I am not swamped with inorganic chem, statistical mechanics, or trying to start a business... wow does that sound like I am spreading myself thin? Nahhh
haha.