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Old 07-21-2015, 06:16 PM   #102
DAEMANO
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Originally Posted by glamcem View Post
exactly 25% performance gain for only $2k, hard to beat that for sure...

I really wanted to get an electric supercharger but opted for Kraftwerks for extended track use, hopefully in the future they will come up with more advanced options
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Originally Posted by LucidMomentum View Post
The procede controller that pairs with it, while an extra $500, does a good job of managing the boost for you so you're rarely without it. It delivers the power more linearly and makes it feel like a more powerful engine.
Exactly. I have a PROcede controller hooked up to my Phantom 2.0 ESC kit. The electric motor can spin instantly to max RPM as soon as it gets power. The compressor is 3d mapped to the throttle position sensor and engine RPMs. Lag is next to nothing. If I didn't know the hardware, I'd swear it was traditionally supercharged and tuned to have a shit ton of low-end torque (~3k-4k RPM). The power is just there. Above 6k RPM, where the ESC boost tapers, the car still delivers more power than a e85 tuned NA FR-S (roughly 225 WHP), all for about $2,000 (the PROcede upgrade doesn't add more power, just what equates to full-time F.I.).

Recently also the thermal limits have been increased. So the ESC is less likely to cut back power for longer sessions (previously owners reported about 20 min track sessions were max). I haven't tested how much longer that has been extended, I can imagine that it's all relative to driving style. @Robftss still won't call it "ready for track duty", but I don't see issues, hot lapping with it and managing the system the same way a driver manages the heat in their tires.

@Robftss and @fenton are currently working on improving hardware that provides even more top end boost. Really amazing that we're getting this depth of research, development and integration on our platform (the 86).

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