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Originally Posted by mav1178
Reminds me of this gem from yesterday:
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I had something just as awesome happen in project cars. Got a little loose mid corner and as I was straightening out it rolled (while going straight), then flew up way in the air and just hovered spinning.
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Originally Posted by DarkSunrise
Anyone ever get black flagged for trying to take a point-by where the driver didn't lift? I had this issue my last track day running with a club that only allowed point-bys on certain straights.
- I catch up to a Miata entering a corner and stay close to signal I want a point-by.
- He gives the point-by at the start of a short (1/6 mile) straight following the corner.
- I go off-line to take it, but he doesn't lift.
- By the end of the straight, we are side-by-side entering an 80 mph turn (and me off-line on the inside).
- I can slow down to tuck behind him before the corner, but that may create more confusion.
- Normally in a pass-anywhere group I would complete the pass on the inside on corner entry, so I do that.
- Black flag (first time ever!). I explain that the Miata didn't lift, which led to us being side-by-side into the corner.
- After getting released from the pit, I just happen to come up on the same Miata in the same corner. Literally the exact same situation. I think to myself this time he will surely lift.
- Halfway down the straight I realize he is not going to lift.
- Groundhog day. Again, I don't want to hit my brakes before the corner as it would create confusion, so I complete the pass on corner entry. Black flag redux. WTF.
I will say that the Miata driver didn't seem to mind me passing on corner-entry and it seemed to work out ok given the short straight. It is a bit nerve-wracking though to try entering a high-speed corner off-line for the first time with another car directly to your side. The biggest question is whether there is enough space in front of the other car to commit to a corner speed that would necessitate a full track-out.
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With any of the groups I've worked with up here, it's the passing cars responsibility to complete the pass before the passing zone ends. We typically have double cones to start and triple cones to end so there's no confusion.
If you can't complete the pass before the passing zone ends, it's your job to fall back behind the car you were passing.
If it were up to me, the miata would've been black flagged as well for pointing you by then not allowing the pass.