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Old 06-19-2015, 08:46 AM   #62
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Anyone ever get black flagged for trying to take a point-by where the driver didn't lift? I had this issue my last track day running with a club that only allowed point-bys on certain straights.

- I catch up to a Miata entering a corner and stay close to signal I want a point-by.
- He gives the point-by at the start of a short (1/6 mile) straight following the corner.
- I go off-line to take it, but he doesn't lift.
- By the end of the straight, we are side-by-side entering an 80 mph turn (and me off-line on the inside).
- I can slow down to tuck behind him before the corner, but that may create more confusion.
- Normally in a pass-anywhere group I would complete the pass on the inside on corner entry, so I do that.
- Black flag (first time ever!). I explain that the Miata didn't lift, which led to us being side-by-side into the corner.
- After getting released from the pit, I just happen to come up on the same Miata in the same corner. Literally the exact same situation. I think to myself this time he will surely lift.
- Halfway down the straight I realize he is not going to lift.
- Groundhog day. Again, I don't want to hit my brakes before the corner as it would create confusion, so I complete the pass on corner entry. Black flag redux. WTF.

I will say that the Miata driver didn't seem to mind me passing on corner-entry and it seemed to work out ok given the short straight. It is a bit nerve-wracking though to try entering a high-speed corner off-line for the first time with another car directly to your side. The biggest question is whether there is enough space in front of the other car to commit to a corner speed that would necessitate a full track-out.
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