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Originally Posted by extrashaky
This is what we call a "straw man." Instead of challenging the points actually made by your opponent, ascribe a ridiculous, unsupportable position to your opponent and argue that instead. Once you get to the point that you're just making up things to argue against, there's really no point in continuing the discussion.
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I completely agree, given what you wrote below.
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Originally Posted by extrashaky
No, they aren't. My other vehicle is a Jeep. I have a header and a high-flow cat on it, neither of which are CARB compliant. Yet they are EPA compliant and road legal in at least 48 other states. The emissions laws are simply not the same.
Furthermore, I have lived in ten different states, and I have never heard of anyone having a cop demand an under-hood inspection in any of them. In fact, I've never heard of that happening anywhere outside of California. Even the states that require emissions testing do not have uniformed thugs pulling you over to demand to see under your hood.
But please, by all means keep telling us about all these things they subject you to in California that people in the free part of American don't have to deal with. Eventually maybe you'll actually convince someone that government intrusion into your life is better than being left alone.
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I am not going to pick apart your argument by researching all 50 states, but just because it's EPA compliant means jack shit if your state follows a stricter-than-EPA standard.
As for living in all those states and all that freedom outside of California, see your "straw man" argument above for how absurd that takes the debate.
I only started replying in this thread to provide some insight to how getting certain types of tickets work in CA and how your rights are impacted. Keep hating on California, I'll enjoy my life here.
-alex