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Originally Posted by BunnyRZed
If they did not mention specifics then you should find out and enlighten us. I'm just simply sharing my real world experience with the front Brembos caliper upgrade. Blindly listening to vendors who are trying to sell you BBK for more than 3X-4X the cost isn't always best practice either. Looks like you're one of those vendor since I do see the link to modbargains.
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Modbargains doesn't even have a BBK for the FRS on its site...
Plus, you really think vendors are pushing BBK's that hard? The vendors who even offer big brake kits recommend cooling mods for the engine and pads/lines/fluid first. How many posts have you seen from a vendor jumping in saying "OMG you must buy a BBK as your first mod for the track!".
People on here are just stating potential issues with sti brembos. Plus, real BBK's are more expensive, yes, but thats because they are actually BBK's...
And for the record, I would/am waiting for a cheap set of sti brembos. I don't track my car, and am willing to accept the potential downsides to using them.
Track cars/teams and race teams do things different. Just like everyone who wants to run "racecar" things on the street because
so and so racecar does it doesn't make it a good idea or practice for the street. Track pads a great idea for the track, so why not use them on the street? Track use and setup is NOT the same as street use. MANY people fail to see and understand this.
And am I supposed to call Jan from Toyota and ask her what brakes they're using for their racecar and what modifications were done to properly allow it? And if I did speak to her, would we even believe it lol?
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Originally Posted by Metabrz
You make a great point. Of the comments posted here, the main objectors who have technical knowledge (opposed to the sheep who think the world will end we'll all die) all seem to be selling the aftermarket "approved" Kits.
No disrespect to any of them of course, they have a business to run.
What grinds my gears is the 'new car tax' premium we are being asked to pay for these kits.
Correct me if I'm wrong but the Brembo STi brake packages offered on the WRX STi and BRZ Ts look the same because the caliper bodies are the same but are specific to each car because of a different size bore for a different size piston.
Prospeed in Oz will sell Brembo STi kits f/r for AUD3500. They don't state it but I imagine these are off the WRX STi (GV/GR) and are not the BRZ TS Brembo kits that are for sale on Japanparts for the astronomical amount NZD6300 for the kit - plus shipping plus duty.
The difference in the parts? Sweet fuck all.
This is called TAKING THE PISS.
Similarly, my mechanic can build a new complete front/rear AP BBK for 'older cars" for NZD2500. The cost to me if I buy the 'factory kit' from the local distributor is NZD8500. WTF? 
All the vendors on here seem to want us to believe they care about our safety and driving experience more than they care about the margins they make on these new products.
Why not ask Brembo/AP to drop the 'new car tax' on calipers that are the best part of 10 years old and are really only different in terms of piston sizes?
I expect the response will be "R&D costs....blah blah  "
If the mathematical templates for brakes on other websites are reasonably accurate, I imagine Brembo/ AP would simply establish requirements by plugging the cars metrics into their computers, test a prototype or three, then bam, its on the market at 3 times the price of the caliper kit for the last flavor of the month. Lets face it, if the WRX STi caliper works on that car, its going to work on the BRZ and look really good while doing it.
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There are people willing to pay the "new car tax" and the rest of us have to suffer until sales die off and prices come down. It sucks haha. But its a new(well, was lol) and we get to pay the premium.
and different size bore is EXACTLY why people are saying NOT to run the Brembo's...No,
most likely your car will not burst into flames if you run sti brembos, but they werent designed for the car and
can cause issues.
I'm not in the "you will die using sti brembo" category. Just in the "use with caution" category.