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Originally Posted by 70NYD
Honestly, this is a widely flawed statement.. You can, for example, get a evo 6 for what 20k in oz so 15 us?? With 10k of mods (again parts only assuming free labour) it would wipe the floor with a tc both being driven by same driver (unbiased 3rd party)
Or you can get a Mid to late 90's sti (10-15k in oz) and put whatever the difference between it and total of 27 is and it will shit all over the tc costing same amount..
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They can't get any evo before the 7 in the US
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Originally Posted by Dragonitti
- Yes
- Nissan Sentra, 97 Toyota Corolla, 95 Toyota Corolla, Buick Regal, Nissan 350z, Scion tC, Infiniti FX35
- 30
- Price and options it came with were unmatched by other cars in it's class.
Races were done on the street from a roll on the interstate, making driving irrelevant. In the case of the Z, it was against my own 350z making driving even more irrelevant. My fiance was in the tC and I was in the Z from the start, then we swapped cars. It's not a drivers race when one car puts a bus length on the other. I put 10 cars on my own 350z, 6-8 cars on a stock STI, about 4 cars on an Evo IX MR. Of course my Z isn't the only one I've raced. These are all on video as well (except for the other 350z's since I didn't have my cam with me and it was a random encounter).
a) I enjoy driving my tC, that's rather apparent. And I would not trade it in for an Evo. I'd rather own both if I were to get an Evo. If I had to pick a car I would trade my tC for, it would have to be no short of an R35 GTR.
b) Not brand new you can't.
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OK, so;
You got your tC principally because of price and options. Cool. Valid reason to purchase. Can't argue with that.
Now, I got the impression that you beat these cars around a track, perhaps at a time attack or track day. You were referring to highway rolls? Are you effing kidding me?
Anyway, Cool that you enjoy driving your tC as it is now, How much did you enjoy driving it stock?
Obviously you can't get an Evo brand new for the same price as a tC, but it is much more performance car than the tC is.
Anyway, c'mon guys lets not do this useless arguing back and forth.
I think we have gotten pretty side tracked. I think we can all accept that Scion is **not** a performance driven brand. I don't think it was ever meant to be. I think we can all accept as well, that there are serious young tuners who do drive scions; Everybody has to start somewhere. The tC is a pretty good car for what it is and what it offers; could be better, but it is what it is. I think most performance people in here have a problem with the way scion is marketed, and would prefer it to take a more serious approach, rather than the approach that is taken now. That doesn't preclude scion from making a performance car, but I think the point that most of the "anti-scion" sentiment stems from the fact that we want the ft-86 to be the best that it can be, we want it to be around for generations to come, and we want it to sell well enough to make Toyota recognize that people do want performance Toyotas and that it will inspire them to build more sports cars and sporty models. And that it would achieve that best coming out as a Toyota.
Anybody disagree?