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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1
Is there a version of the tC that is made that is comparable to S/RS trim?
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That is the reason I said excluded the S/RS from the pool. The standard A4 is as I described. The S4 is nice and manages it's bloatiness with more power and better brakes. The RS4 is other-worldly--and has the price tag to go with it.
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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1
They are not mutually exclusive marketing concepts, but that is the key there isn't it? Marketing. Not engineering.
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Racing is not just engineering though, it is also marketing. Since the beginning of auto racing manufacturers use their victories to sell cars, which in turn funds the engineering and racing. If you engineer the greatest car of all time (can't believe I am going here, but it is actually relevant), like Newey's X1 project for GT5. Phenomenal engineering, but the X1 will likely never be built and there is even less chance of it being raced. Why? Because they could never make enough money marketing it to make the engineering profitable.
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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1
And obviously, racing heritage doesn't come from one successful season, rather things like 50+ years of motorsports in every category you could think of, and I dunno, say 27 years of rallying with 6 generations of a model and 6 world championships to go with it?
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I agree to an extent. If Scion keeps upping their racing/motorsports involvement, in 50 years if Scion (or Toyota, for that matter) is still around they will have a chance at having heritage you deem worthy. But if they listen to the naysayers and stay off the race tracks they will never have the chance to have a heritage. Know what I mean?
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Originally Posted by MatadorRacing_F1
No one is asking scion to throw tens of millions at racing in a premier series. Rather just take some of the millions used on douche marketing, and "all show no go" and use it to go racing instead (relevant, racing of course).
There are rife opportunities, X-Games rally, IRC, GrandAm GT class ... well no, it'd just be slaughtered there wouldn't it.. but you get my point.
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I had just posted a story and link of a Scion accomplishing something in a legitimate racing series, in a legitimate race car (more similar to a stock car than the much lauded RallyCross STI is to its stock counterpart). Does that not count for something? You've got admit that it is at least a start.
If it is not on your short list of opportunities then it's not worth doing? Touring car? Conti Challenge? SCCA Pro? Club Racing? Are those not real, legitimate endeavors?