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Originally Posted by Dimman
So being the only factory-backed Open FWD class car should be a challenge? Give me a break. The reason they are doing so well is that only Toyota and Chevy seemed to care enough about FWD time-attack to spend stupid amounts of factory-sponsorship money on it.
Name a 'factory-backed' AWD or RWD team that is getting even 10% of the money that Scion is throwing around.
As for the pics of the other car and the grandiose statement that, no it doesn't have a motor swap, well you should read a bit more of your own pic's specs... Very good, its using a fully-built 2AZFE. Fully built stock-based motors making ridiculous hp is nothing new (BMW F1 engines in the 80s made over 1000hp/L that's 1500 hp using blocks that came from road cars, used ones for the seasoning of the metal but they had some money spent on them too).
But did you miss the fact that it's a completely custom chassis and carbon-fiber body? Oops.
There is nothing off the showroom floor of a tC that says 'this will make a great race car'. You need to throw ass-loads of dollars at them.
The point that I've been repeatedly trying to make is that Toyota North America/Scion doesn't give two shits about producing a real performance car. They rely on these fantasy Scions, NASCAR Camrys and marketing campaigns.
This wasn't the case in the olden days of Toyota sports cars like the MR2, All-Trac/GT4 Celica, and Supra Turbos.
Scion and Toyota North America's marketing departments can lick my balls. Then they can step aside and let the engineers back in charge of performance.
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What part of PTuning not getting $1 of Scion's money did you miss? Yet they are still 2008 and 2009 Modified Class FWD champs. If you are going to make a comment, please pay attention to what's posted.
And I posted the comment about motorswaps because I run into countless UNinformed people who look at Tanner Foust V8 swapped tC and think that the tC can only be fast if it's got a V8 in it. How ridiculous. And also, you comment as if there are countless 4banger motors out there that can make 1000+whp as long as you build them..wrong. You have to take into account of displacement, cooling, thresholds for the block...etc. Especially 4bangers making 1000+whp on the stock sleeves.
Can you readily purchase a BMW F1 engine in a factory car off the show room floor....No, thus making your post irrelevant by bringing up a Purpose built motor. Built motors are built motors in production cars. Not every built motor is going to be able to achieve the same as another....SIMPLY based on the facts that they are built. This is the real world.
What if I used my OWN Scion tC as an example, would that suffice....Highly doubt it. I can post up my own vids if you like.