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Old 03-18-2015, 08:06 PM   #699
DAEMANO
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Originally Posted by totopo View Post
Aren't we car enthusiasts here? It's like when your non car friends go, what's faster, a bmw or Porsche? isn't that infuriating? WHICH BMW AND WHICH PORSCHE.

so in the same way, why the he'll are you interested in trying to say "the twins are faster/slower than a miata". is it that hard to add the qualifier base or club? Like no one will be able to understand the difference? Why are you so afraid that another car may be faster? Is that why you bought the car? The entire point of the twins was to forgoe track times for fun.
I think in this forum it's generally understood that both the Miata and 86 were built with fun in mind first. However the point being debated here turned to "speed". In a conversation about speed, comparisons will inevitably be made, so the next question is "is this a fair comparison".

Miata "fun" edition = base
86 "fun" edition = base

Miata "performance" edition = club
86 "performance" edition = non-existant because, paraphrased from Tadasan "you make it yourself with the help of the aftermarket".

I also thought this point was also well understood about the 86. The aftermarket will provide the performance people individually desire, not the factory. That's been stated and repeated many times. So that's why the most reasonable way to compare performance of these cars is to compare base models.
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