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Old 03-13-2015, 01:18 PM   #43
totopo
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Originally Posted by LucidMomentum View Post
I think it's less about being a problem and more about being reasonable.

Do I need a Supercharger? Not at all. I really don't. There are very few times I would really get to fully, 100% open it up.

There are very few times I get to open the stock FR-S up 100%. Even on my favorite drive up to kernivlle via granite road, I'm doing about 40-50 mph average due to the curves and the altitude.

However, it's a blast and I can do that on those roads where most cars and trucks would be taking the road at 20-30 mph average.

Power creep is a dangerous game, and you can go from budgeting for a FR-S to buying a Corvette if you keep that mentality.

If I couldn't afford to save for a SC, I wouldn't even complain. But I can, so I may get one. Do I need it? Not at all. But it might be nice to have some more power and torque. But keeping the car stock doesn't mean being handicapped. It's a great car for the money.
Rightttt that's why 90% of the Complaints about tHe twins is the power.

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Originally Posted by Sideways&Smiling View Post
Compared to all of the other Japanese tuner cars I mentioned, it IS heavy. The Z (350/370) is more of a muscle car. I consider it to be the Japanese Mustang. It's built more to the tastes of Americans than the Japanese.

When it comes down to having a built engine with forced induction and full aftermarket quality suspension, it could never compare to a Miata/S2000/RX7/240sx (with SR20)/FRS/BRZ/etc.... It just won't. It's not the same style of car. It's built on the same platform as luxury sedans and it's easy to tell that.
And the twins are based off the imprezza, what's your point?

Cars these days have more stringent safety requirements, so they keep getting heavier. Also people want fast track times out of oem sports cars. Even when 99% of people don't track. Everyone loves talking about track times.. Why there was pushback by execs against the twins. The current trend is big hp and big hp. With big hp you have to have beefy drivetrain and beefy suspension. Tada specifically wanted to push back that trend. Why he made a lightweight low torque sports car.

I don't think I'm pushing the z... I just hate how every craps on it when it is pretty decent car and one of the only other options out there. I post here because I also think the twins are an interesting car and I cross shopped it. it's a shame that there's no physical way to have an affordable OEM car with 300hp and <3000 lbs these days.
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