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Originally Posted by oneday
Most grassroots drivers _are_ there own pit crew. We do not have engineers or crew other than ourselves and friends/competitors. We build, race, wreck, fix, tune, and finance our own cars. So, while you wouldn't be wrong to necessarily distrust the driver's advice when he shows up with a crew and a trailered 911 Cup Car, you would also be wrong to think most guys at track days are unfamiliar with engineering (in fact most of my closest racing buddies are engineers).
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and let me guess you think i sit at home all day and play need for speed? or BFS??
every second member of my FSAE team is HARDCORE in to weekend racing (IE 95% of the mechanical engineers from the team) but not every weekend racer on the track is a engineer. i know mechanics, electricians and pannel beaters that are all racers.. they are all there cus they are good driers, but hey they dont know squat of how to setup a suspension past what they read on the internet..
and your mr drifter speech proves HOW stupid this whole convo is.. a ROLL CAGE IS A FUCKING SPACE FRAME.. most cars on the street are a cross between a space frame and a monocoque.. i understand what you meant to say (ie full space frame chassis with a look-alike skin over) but it just proves that just cus someone is a driver it dont mean they ACTUALLY know any technicalities.
a buddy of myn is hardcore in to cars.. talks about them all the time allways wants to go to the track.. hes a engineer.. a CIVIL engineer... (he still knows his shit but lol)
SO for the 5th time (and you sound like a dumb fuck since you cant see my point still nor acknowledge it) just because someone LOVES cars and is in to racing that doesnt mean that they actually know any specifics apart from what was on the box the part came out of.. they couldnt make their own swaybar that is PERFECTLY suited the the car they run with the weight of the car and the most probably modified suspension geometry taken in to consideration.. they would just get a swaybar of the shelf that sort of works for their setup and get ok transfer controll..
as for the point dimman was trying to say
a rally WRX (while subaru was still racing as a factory) was a H4 AWD setup, the car you buy at the dealer is a H4 AWD setup. you can bore and or stroke the engine with forged internals and a lightened crank, bigger turbo (although i dunno if anti-lag is legal for streets of US, its not here) strengthened gearbox, different suspension ETC and the car will actually be VERY close to the WRC one (bar the chassis mods)
go to a scion dealership and buy a tC, take it home, you have to physically cut the floor pan out, make a new one, relocate the fuel tank cus you HAVE to not cus you want to, fabricate a new firewall, new mounts, new rear subframe and then drop everything in.. and then do more changes for the suspension etc making it a 10% tC
its EASYER (cheaper 2) to make a spaceframe and bolt the skin on to it, making it a 5% tC