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Originally Posted by strat61caster
Sheesh such violent hatred for a project that millions of people have enjoyed.
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-Not violent hatred at all, I like different and weird technologies. It's just akin to seeing someone in an abusive relationship, someone smart who should know better but keeps going back for that ass whoopin' time and time again. Mazda, the rotary
doesn't love you, no matter how much the fanbois love it.
-Because ~2 million have been sold you can technically say "millions have enjoyed" but millions have also enjoyed smoking crack, healing with leeches and burning witches but yet we're not here extolling the virtues of those actions. Just because millions have enjoyed something does not a valid argument make. Just thought I'd point that out.
-The Rotary isn't something I hate, it's just
obsolete. It's not a workable solution for a traditional ICE propelled car in today's regulatory environment and the number of fanbois it has is far-overshadowed by how many people are turned off by it, either because they're unfamiliar (fear of unknown) or they are familiar but don't appreciate its shortcomings. It's a round world and the rotary is a square peg. It boggles my mind how this concept doesn't register.
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Originally Posted by strat61caster
By your own admittance the rotary is not the sole source of their woes, they're still struggling with reliability on their CUV's and some of their most unreliable cars have been piston engined.
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Most of that is during the FORD years. Mazda wasn't free from that partnership until 2010 and it's clear that's when things starting to turn. This new KODO design has been a whopping success and 2014 was Mazda's best year in over 20 years:
http://www.mazdausamedia.com/2015-01...ES-IN-20-YEARS
Also most of the articles on Jalop that cover new Mazdas are overwhelmingly positive.
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Originally Posted by strat61caster
Their Camry challenger has received every accolade in it's class and yet the Mazda6 sales are flagging.
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A big part is name recognition. Just like how people bought the Z3 only because it had a BMW badge on it. Or someone buys a Honda because they "just needed a reliable car and they were told..." Under the rule of the FORD they put out some real turds and the Mazda brand suffered as a result. With the moves they're making now that will change and I think it's changing pretty fast. I think the CX-3 will be a big hit as well.
For every 1 person that's horny for a rotary I can find that 10 that are turned off by it. For a company that's rebounding and rebuilding their brand image, they would be wise to ignore the rotary for production vehicles, unless that production vehicle is an EV with a rotary charger (if that's a good solution).
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Originally Posted by strat61caster
Mazda needs to embody zoom zoom, Mazda needs a rotary.
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Sorry dude, it looks like if you ever see a rotary in a production vehicle again it will simply be there to charge your batteries.
Now, does that charge your batteries?