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Originally Posted by tennisfreak
Have you looked at the Nameless dynos?
I think they are a flawed design if you are not going FI and there are many many better options out there.
There is a reason the Nameless Header thread died.
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I've looked at a lot of header dynos, and only recall comparisons against stock. Most also have a tune. Given the variables, comparisons with any statistical significance are very difficult. We can probably compare the shapes of the curve, but not the raw numbers. Comparing a UEL and EL design from the same company, it's tough to say the UEL has statistically significant improvements in midrange torque, but it's consistently lower peak. Close enough it may not even matter (won't if you're on the street,) but mathematically is likely always going to suggest the EL is the way to go if you want power of any kind.
I think the Nameless does some things better than other designs, and some things worse. The lovely dive it takes centered at 3200rpm isn't exactly a happy thing, but you trade it for just a bit more torque above that point, at least in theory. So, the question becomes, will you find yourself in this low spot in the range? The answer will be different for everyone.
So, I'm still curious what comparison you're using to validate the "best midrange power" statement. Is it power under the curve? Flatter power curve, so no drop at 3200? Did someone actually dyno both with reasonably comparable results? Perhaps we don't have the same ranges in mind when we say "midrange" either (3200 is really right between low and mid to me.)
I'm not attempting to suggest the Nameless is the best thing going, I'm just trying to understand the basis for your statement.
Finally, since I must speculate, I'd have guessed the Nameless thread died because they've basically had a product that's unavailable for some time, plus FP/OP fitment issues. I could be wrong, of course.
Full disclosure: I do happen to have a Nameless header waiting to be installed. If I find myself in that valley of despair too often on the course and find it an issue, I'll chalk it up to the miscalculation it is, and get a different header - and then find out if I can note the difference.
If I'd waited two months, I very likely would have had a different brand, just due to availability. A reasonable deal is hard to pass up, so I jumped. I'm curious to see how it works for me - no expectations, and no regrets.
C