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Old 02-12-2015, 07:26 AM   #612
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Going by the rumored specifications, the 155 HP ND should be a tad faster than the 167 HP NC2, which is about as fast as the FT86 (though many think the NC2 is underrated).
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Results (with a couple values for mass and shift points):
Code:
car     kg    hp   lbf*ft shift 0-60  1/4
NC2L    1227  167  140    7500  7.28  15.57
NC2L    1227  167  140    7200  7.34  15.63
ND2L    1158  155  148    7000  7.18  15.49
ND2L    1158  155  148    6800  7.20  15.51
ND2L    1127  155  148    7000  7.13  15.43
ND2L    1127  155  148    6800  7.15  15.46
ND1.5L  1109  129  111    7500  7.81  16.06
ND1.5L  1086  129  111    7500  7.74  16.00
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car  0-60  1/4
BRZL 6.92  15.31
FRS  6.91  15.31
Not to nitpick, but these two statements don't match. The first statement implies:

ND > NC2 = FT86

But your second statement clearly shows:

FT86 > ND > NC2

I don't really care either way and until someone actually tests the Miata, this is all just useless conjecture, but just thought I'd point out why others might not be following your logic.
As I mentioned:
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That's with the FT86 hitting 60 MPH in 2nd gear. If it shifted to 3rd before hitting second (like the NC2 does and the ND will unless its gearing is taller), then the BRZ does 0-60 in 7.14 and the FRS in 7.12. Conversely, if the ND is geared tall enough to hit 60 in 2nd, it ought to be able to do 0-60 in 6.92 sec.
So, going by specifications (and some educated guesses), at reasonable speeds it's: FT86 ~ ND > NC2 (where the NC2 is still pretty close to the others).

Now, consider that in the real world, it's: FT86 ~ NC2.

In the quarter mile (again, going by specs/guesses), the FT86 has a slight advantage over the ND, which has a slight advantage over the NC2. In the real world, the FT86 and NC2 are very close. Which brings us to:

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It'll be interesting to see how it does in the real world. Many think the NC2 is slightly underrated, which the spreadsheet results support (looking at its on-paper vs real-world performance compared to the FT86). If the ND is underrated, it could match or even beat the FT86.
None of these cars are about straight line acceleration, but the NC2 and FT86 have plenty of oomph to have fun with. The ND ought to be about as fast (+/- a tenth or two) and I expect it'll be a blast to flog either way.

I look forward to the test drive.
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