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Originally Posted by PowderfaceTr.
so when i hit an fresh oil slick coming into corner #1 the traction control kicks in briefly. On the following laps I just adjust until the car doesnt activate safety devices then thats my new fast line. it could be chunks of tire dust or even puddles TC shows you were to adapt for the conditions. i dont need to know you to know you are sensitive to the subject. possibly there was a time in your career that throwing your car into corner was best thing you had. who cares how somebody drives. until they hit you your just gonna have to cross your fingers and learn to drive defensibly in time attack.
the irony is I barely keep the thing out of the wall. It swappe ends, get way loose, and nearly spin out with little to no warning. Sometimes i dive down towards the infield for no reason I ever did figure out, and once coming off the banking it rebounded off the suspension stops hard enough to bounce the whole front end in the air still a good laptime
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Don't confuse trying to help and contain bad information with sensitivity. Your presumptuous personal attacks are, frankly, pathetic and really detrimental to civil discourse. As an HPDE instructor, I care about accurate (and frankly cautious) information being disseminated. I have seen too many mangled cars at the track to not care about what people are saying when it comes to basic car control factors. As one of my friends told me when I started off, when things go bad, they go bad quick.
And for your information, my personal style when I was beginning (and generally to this day) was to take things very cautiously; I never tossed the car into corners with abandon as you seem to think.
I get the distinct impression from your comment though that you are driving beyond your safe limit and relying upon the traction control to do your traction sensing for you. That you, as you say, "barely keep the thing out of the wall" speaks volumes. Frankly if you are saying that, you really need to step back and look at what you are doing wrong. Driving fast is about control. Control over yourself, control over your emotions, and control over the car. Without that control, you are just sloppy. If you watch a really good driver, they aren't just barely keeping it out of the wall; they are choosing to put the car where they want it. They could be putting it close to a wall, and if they are that is exactly where they want it. They know exactly what the car is going to do and what they can make it do and how that will affect the next thing they have to do.
Also, when you say "who cares how somebody drives. until they hit you your just gonna have to cross your fingers and learn to drive defensibly in time attack." you show an astounding amount of disregard for the people around you on the track. In close passing conditions or race conditions there is a huge amount of trust that is required between the drivers. A comment like that is exactly why I really hope I never see you on track. If someone is driving crazy I will pull off (and tell the stewards/event organizers). My body and life are worth more than a few minutes on track.
That you have random things happening that you can't explain also should be a major red flag for you that you need to understand more of what is going on. I suspect you could really benefit by consciously slowing down and learning to feel what the chassis is telling to you. These cars are wonderfully communicative, learn to listen to them and maybe one day you won't need the traction control to save your ass since you can save it on your own. Or better yet, you won't need to save your ass because you will have seen the issue before hitting it!