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Originally Posted by ddeflyer
I would NEVER want a beginner to go out without traction control enabled.
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So you would have never taken anyone on a track prior to the implementation of traction control in modern cars? Ayrton Senna is rolling over in his grave.
Pedal dance is the only way to go.
As far as the beginner TC philosophy...
My wife started from Day 1 with the pedal dance for 3 reasons:
1. With proper instruction and some common sense, a new driver will not over drive the car or their skills.
2. The benefits of learning how to actually control a car without intervention far outweighs the risk of a relatively slower speed incident in a controlled environment. If a driver is unable or unfamiliar with recovering a vehicle from a drift or slide at lower speeds, they're going to be in real trouble once they do get fast and decide to disable the nannies. Remember, loose is fast.
3. The adverse affects of the VSC Sport mode, or 5 sec off are much worse than the dance, such as the tendency for the E-diff to lock a wheel and spin the car when coming off of curbing at high speed. i.e... it tries to kill you, and not in the good Jeremy Clarkson C63 AMG kind of way.
A properly set up 86 has MUCH more grip than the OEM traction program was designed to deal with. I get traction control intervention during smooth left-right weight transfers on curvy off ramps driving at 4/10ths in VSC Sport mode... so much intervention that it can be downright scary and we have completely stopped using that mode.