[Lonewolf]

Originally Posted by SlowButFun

I've never (well, okay, once) experienced the kinds of ad hominem attacks I've been subjected to for stating something about a vehicle - citing articles from level headed reviewers like Karesh & Dykes that support my contentions by the way - on any other forum.

I honestly believe some here, such as Lone Wolf, just can't accept that the Toybaru was over-hyped to the point of inevitably disappointing many, that it's not powerful enough to hang with many cars costing about the same price (or less), and that it doesn't even garner a recommended rating from Consumer Reports due to poor reliability.

I owned an FR-S. I took a bath on it when I traded it I for a vehicle that didn't cost significantly more despite being many levels better in terms of performance, power and even refinement and utility.

The reason I weighed in on why sales of the Twins are tumbling is because it puzzles me that Toyota & Subaru won't do the one, easy, inexpensive thing that the Twins ABSOLUTELY SHOUT OUT FOR, and would probably double their sales: Add 40 to 50 horsepower & approximately 40 lbs feet of torque.

The one really bad move was sourcing the boxer motor from Subaru. It's not as if Toyota doesn't have way more technical expertise designing & building engines vs Subaru.