[Thorpedo]

Originally Posted by celica73

Still not buying that argument. Shifting the rear subframe should* do very little to effect camber. ALL the suspension arms are connected to the subframe, shifting it left will just change the relationship to the body, no suspension arms will change relative to each other. The only reason I see to move the rear subframe is if the front and rear are not lined up to each other.

*shifting the subframe will slightly alter the angle of the rear shocks, thus changing the motion ratios slightly. I have not done the math, so can't comment on how much the change is, but it isn't likely to be significant enough to raise or lower the car, and with no change in ride height there is no change in camber.

Heh, you're absolutely right. I bought into the bad info listed in the other threads and didn't think critically about it! Thanks for bringing that up.

Oddly enough I just removed the entire rear suspension last night. I did notice that a lot of the bolt holes in the subframe/bushings are large enough that there is a fair amount of "play" when the bolts are loose. Say if the upper control arm had inward force on it when it was tightened and the lower had outward force I could see it making a fair amount of difference in camber. Does this make sense?