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themadscientist · 01-19-2015, 02:19 AM

Those questions you get are actually "why didn't you do what I think is right?" So far, most of the negative comment I get regarding my choice, (I get them already and I haven't even taken delivery) demonstrate that the detractor has not really understood what the intent, or at least the arguable intent of the car was.

"It's only got 200hp!"

So does that. Everybody thought it was a gift from god a few years ago. 202hp and 203 lbft Source: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sr20det"]Nissan SR20DET - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

So did that, but, again, it also walked on water. 200hp and 133 lbft Source: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_B_engine"]Honda B engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

What changed all of the sudden?
The FA20 pushes 200hp and 151 lbft of torque, what's fucking with you?

"It's slow!"

Oh really?

The Redtop SR20DET would push the 180SX from 0-60 in 6.5 seconds with a 1/4 mile down in 14.5. Source: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_180SX"]Nissan 180SX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]

The B18C Integra Type R would snap from 0-60 in 6.7 seconds and roll over a 1/4 mile in 14.9. Source: http://www.autorooster.com/0-60-time...acura-integra/

That "weak" motor pushes the "slow" FRS/BRZ from 0-60 in 6.4 seconds and to the end of the drag strip in 14.8. Source: http://www.0-60specs.com/scion-fr-s-0-60-times/

That's a tossup across these three cars, two that fanbois for over a decade have worshipped and complained that they couldn't get in the states. Toybaru FINALLY gives people what they said they wanted (those pizza-faced kids whining back then are now grown, employed and able to buy new cars) and people are still bitching? Weaksauce.

The FRS does all that nipping at the heels of the 180SX even though it's 100lbs heavier than the Nissan and pulling harder from a dig and holding off the 2500 lb Teggy while dragging 300lbs more weight down the track.

Sources:
http://www.scion.com/cars/FR-S2014/specs/
[ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_180SX"]Nissan 180SX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame]
http://fastestlaps.com/cars/honda_in...ype_r_dc2.html

Yeah, you know, if it seems like everything sucks, maybe it's not everything, maybe it's you.

01-19-2015, 02:19 AM	#9
themadscientist Hotlink Terrorist Join Date: Nov 2014 Drives: 2015 WRB BRZ Spec S Location: "Dirty South" Japan Posts: 2,077 Thanks: 1,525 Thanked 2,624 Times in 1,196 Posts Mentioned: 12 Post(s) Tagged: 0 Thread(s)	Those questions you get are actually "why didn't you do what I think is right?" So far, most of the negative comment I get regarding my choice, (I get them already and I haven't even taken delivery) demonstrate that the detractor has not really understood what the intent, or at least the arguable intent of the car was. "It's only got 200hp!" So does that. Everybody thought it was a gift from god a few years ago. 202hp and 203 lbft Source: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sr20det"]Nissan SR20DET - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] So did that, but, again, it also walked on water. 200hp and 133 lbft Source: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honda_B_engine"]Honda B engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] What changed all of the sudden? The FA20 pushes 200hp and 151 lbft of torque, what's fucking with you? "It's slow!" Oh really? The Redtop SR20DET would push the 180SX from 0-60 in 6.5 seconds with a 1/4 mile down in 14.5. Source: [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_180SX"]Nissan 180SX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] The B18C Integra Type R would snap from 0-60 in 6.7 seconds and roll over a 1/4 mile in 14.9. Source: http://www.autorooster.com/0-60-time...acura-integra/ That "weak" motor pushes the "slow" FRS/BRZ from 0-60 in 6.4 seconds and to the end of the drag strip in 14.8. Source: http://www.0-60specs.com/scion-fr-s-0-60-times/ That's a tossup across these three cars, two that fanbois for over a decade have worshipped and complained that they couldn't get in the states. Toybaru FINALLY gives people what they said they wanted (those pizza-faced kids whining back then are now grown, employed and able to buy new cars) and people are still bitching? Weaksauce. The FRS does all that nipping at the heels of the 180SX even though it's 100lbs heavier than the Nissan and pulling harder from a dig and holding off the 2500 lb Teggy while dragging 300lbs more weight down the track. Sources: http://www.scion.com/cars/FR-S2014/specs/ [ame="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nissan_180SX"]Nissan 180SX - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia[/ame] http://fastestlaps.com/cars/honda_in...ype_r_dc2.html Yeah, you know, if it seems like everything sucks, maybe it's not everything, maybe it's you.