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Originally Posted by BlackMonarch
You should open a salon with how many hairs you're splitting. The fact is we likely won't ever see an F\I from the factory. The transmission that is in the car can handle (from everything I've seen) up to 340whp, without breaking immediately. Safe range? Probably 280-ish.
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Where do you get your "280 is safe" from? Why do people think oh, my cousin joe gets ___ hp from the car for 10k miles, it must be perfectly okay! and drive-line components need to withstand torque, not hp so much.
please read what I previously posted:
https://kaizenfactor.wordpress.com/2...e-know-so-far/
"For those of you who are looking forward to turbo or supercharge your BRZ / FR-S / GT 86 via the aftermarket, however, we must remind you of a crucial caveat that appears on the second photo of this article: “Medium Torque Capacity RWD 6-Speed Manual transmission (AZ6)”. A cursory glance at all the vehicles that have used the Aisin AZ6 reveals that the torquiest of the lot is the S15 Nissan Silvia Spec-R, producing 202 lb/ft. All other AZ6 users produced somewhere between 124 and 163 lb/ft of torque, with stock BRZ / FR-S / GT 86 rated at 151 lb/ft. Notably, when the North American market demanded a manual transmission option for the Lexus IS 300 and its 2JZ-GE 3-liter inline 6’s 218 lb/ft of torque, the Aisin AZ6 (or J160 in Toyotaspeak) was deemed to be too weak. Instead, a W55 variant of the W58 5-speed manual from the naturally-aspirated Toyota Supra and Lexus SC 300 was used. Thus, it’ll be quite interesting to see what Subaru and Toyota engineers would do for a possible future manual supercharged or turbocharged FT-86 variant. Further modifying the existing AZ6? Or doing so with the higher-capacity AY6 (which can reportedly handle over 345 lb/ft of torque)? Or reach out to Getrag as Toyota did for the 233/V160 when it needed a stout yet sporting 6-speed manual for the Mk4 Supra Twin Turbo?"
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Your go-to argument of "Well you want more power, what transmission?!" is moot - Doesn't matter in the least what they WOULD use - because they won't. Also your prices are way off base.
They could realistically provide a non-FI retune of the engine from the factory to put it right at 210-ish crank horsepower, and use that as the mid-cycle refresh. The price they charge at the moment for a 1.0 Release Edition is what I imagine they would charge for an S\C or Turbo model, without all the tarting up of the bumpers.
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How are you so sure they can just flip a switch and get 10 more hp with just a little bit of price? There are so many factors involved. Do you personally know the engineers or something?