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Originally Posted by babydriver
Here's another group of times, these from Top Gear, most with the Stig, but a few with Vettel and Hamilton. The GT 86 is number 153 on the list:
http://fastestlaps.com/tracks/top_gear_track.html
Some cars that were slower than the GT 86 on this track:
Nissan 350Z
Mazda RX-8
BMW M5
BMW M3
Lotus Esprit
Audi TT 3.2 Quattro
Mercedes SLK 350
Jaguar XKR
Lotus Elise
Porsche 986 Boxster
BMW Z4 3.0i
Honda S2000
Maserati Coupe Cambiocorsa
Alfa Romeo 8C Competizione
Porsche 944
Porsche 928
Aston Martin DB5
Mini Cooper (dead last on this list) - Richard Hammond
All were driven by the Stig on the same course except as noted above. That removes the variable of the driver completely (except for the Mini Cooper). It should be noted that the Ford GT did considerably better in the hands of the Stig, finishing 45th on the list, well ahead of the GT-86. |
I'm not too big a fan of top gear times. I think it's fairly accurate for the super cars, like the top 50. But they are a entertainment show, and like best motoring, I feel like they sandbag some cars and try harder for other cars. Like for example, the 370z superlap, the stig misshifts twice and fiddles with the shifter the entire time, and that's supposedly the "fastest lap" that they post. Also, the corvettes never seem to get a good time on top gear, but they consistently beat super cars on other laps with pro drivers. Similarly how the vettes can never seem to do well on best motoring. But in any case, let's take a look at that list again. The z4 was running on vw, why I posted that reply. If you also take out all the cars produced before like 07 (tiresssssssssss), it looks more like:
123. Subaru Impreza WRX STI 1:28.20 115 '07 300 / 1527 The Stig
124. BMW Z4 sDrive35i 1:28.20 115 '09 306 / 1580 The Stig
126. Mitsubishi Lancer Evo X FQ300 SST 1:28.22 115 '08 291 / 1590 The Stig
127. Opel Astra OPC 2012 1:28.30 115 '12 280 / 0 The Stig
130. VW Golf GTI (MkVII) 1:28.60 115 '13 230 / 1351 The Stig
136. Ford Focus RS 1:29.30 114 '09 305 / 1467 The Stig
138. Ford Focus ST 1:29.60 113 '12 250 / 1432 The Stig
139. VW Golf Mk7 GTi (220 hp-version) 1:29.60 113 '13 220 / 1351 The Stig
145. Renault Megane Sport F1-Team R26 1:30.60 112 '07 231 / 1375 The Stig
146. Ford Focus RS500 1:30.80 d 112 '10 350 / 1450 The Stig
152. Vauxhall VXR8 1:31.30 111 '07 417 / 1812 The Stig
153. Toyota GT-86 1:31.30 111 '12 200 / 1180 Stig
163. Renault Clio RS 200 EDC 1:32.00 110 '12 200 / 0 The Stig
169. VW Golf Mk V GTI Edition 30 1:32.60 110 '07 230 / 1332 The Stig
171. Ford Fiesta ST 1:32.70 110 '13 180 / 1248 The Stig
179. Peugeot 208 GTI 1:33.20 109 '12 200 / 1160 The Stig
Which is pretty consistent with what is posted previously.
PS, stop trying to compare modern lap times to cars in the early 2000's. It reminds me of that guy that was trying to compare the frs times to a 1970's 911 turbo lap time and say the frs is faster than a 911 turbo.