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Originally Posted by Jaden
I searched and searched for that and could not find a definitive answer on self tuning with ecutek, everything was pointing to having to use a master tuner or becoming a master tuner.
If you could point me to a definitive resource for that solution you were referring to, I would love to add it to my choices before I make a selection...
Jaden
p.s. Having canned tunes that I can immediately use from the developers in the interim is one of the main selling points to me on using the OFT versus other solutions. It also gives me a way to compare results with the stock tune to lower the learning curve on tuning these cars as well.
And I won't lie, the pricing points are ridiculous on ecutek.. 600 for a cable, 400 for a license, 350 every time you want a tune...
It gets a little ridiculous and I'm sure that self tuning option is another several hundred bucks too.
So, yeah those features are nice, but someone had to figure out how to add those features. I'll hack the damn thing and figure out how to do those same things myself if I have to.
Being an IT director that administers a network that is almost entirely Linux should give you an idea how much I HATE licensing bullshit..
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Licensing is the only way for the devs at EcuTek to get paid. You can go the OFT/COBB model and lock the hardware to the car, but instead the licensing scheme is used. Frankly, it works much better. Nothing to unmarry, and they are easy to recover in case of dealer overwrite etc...no hardware to send back.
Now the pricing you're quoting is way off. It is generally 350 for a cable, 300 for a license, and tune is anywhere between free (you do get what you pay for) and 500+. Having the ability to DIY tune with EcuTek starts at 650. If you want to add RaceROM add another 350, but nothing else has anything like it. Not cobb nor OFT so there's no comparison to their pricing.
You can then tune your car to your hearts content, knowing that your money went to the guys who did all of the hard work to reverse engineer the platform, and who continue to support it and add features all the time.
As for canned tunes...you can open up any of the canned OFT/RomRaider based tunes with EcuTek and go from there.
Another often overlooked (but very important!) fact is the flash time. I have customers pull up all the time unmarrying their tablets and they sit there for 5-10 minutes waiting. Because that's how long the flash takes. EcuTek? Modern USB3 laptops are done in about 60 seconds. When you're on the dyno at 160/hr that adds up really quick. Even if you're street tuning, sitting there 5-10 minutes a pop while you adjust even the slightest parameters gets old really quick. With EcuTek RaceROM we make a custom map that we can alter based on either a voltage regulator (infinite adjustment) or map switching (combined 8 different modes when mixed with TC on/off). That means one 60 second flash and you have 8+ combinations to try.
I get it that folks doing DIY may not appreciate that at first, but believe me even if you're doing it yourself, wasting 3 hours of a day doing dozens of flashes is rarely worth it. Tuning is fun, but sitting there draining your phone battery killing time while the progress bar slowly moves isn't.