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Originally Posted by Spaceywilly
Exactly! So how do we know which one is more fun? Drive them both and compare... now let's see, who has done that? Oh right, MT did it and they preferred the BRZ. So why do you still insist the Mustang is more fun again?
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i never said the mustang was more fun.
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Originally Posted by brewksy
My ridiculously-opposite argument was meant to bring to light the ridiculousness of your own argument, and it worked perfectly. Thanks for acknowledging that.
The best test of handling is on a very small track like AutoX, etc. The best test of power/speed is a drag race. Everything else is a compromise of the two. However, No single lap time in ANY of these events determines the FEEL or PREFERENCE that the driver will experience. That was the only point I made in my post. Which is why a lot of us are listening to the *words* and opinions about the feel from the drivers of the car, rather than the lap time comparos.
Sure, some will want more power. Some will want better springs. But you can't deny that for those that are looking for a pure-feel, great-handling car, this review is a solid WIN.
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just because we are using similar reasoning doesnt mean im not making sense. we are coming to different conclusions and while my conclusion was kind of supported yours wasnt. autox is only the best test for andling at the speeds in an autox. cars with more power usually need to handle at higher speeds and they give up alot .
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Originally Posted by Kunzite
Well, it is a win - if you're looking for the best handling, fun, big grin on your face car; not if you're looking at the times only. The performance difference likely can be fixed with better tires, btw.
And sometimes, just being close to a much more powerful car can be called a "win", too, even if it's not actually.
On the Megane thread I see people are accepting that's a very fast car. Should they state this again, and again, and again, on each thread all around this forum, explaining over and over how sh*tty the 86 is in comparison, and how they'll buy the hatch instead? Then, calling names (zealot! fanboy!) if one would still like the 86 better? What would be enough, in your opinion, for one not to be considered a fanatic?
Preferences should not be mistaken for fanaticism.
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handling doesnt equal ear to ear grins. but if you are saying if you look for the best handling, its a win...that just doesnt mean a whole lot to me. i could just as easily say, if you are looking for the greenest car, its a solid win for ford