haha some of these responses are pure gold. I ended up tinkering with one this evening and ended up picking up a black 2013 with 25k on the odo. Its got some kind of exhaust (salesman said its probably stock from scion) and aftermarket pulleys (no idea). Hopefully the gf will sit in this one. She really hated the MX-5. Then again, she hates softtops as well. thanks everyone for the input! I think she'll be able to reach across the center console from the passenger seat