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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar
6spd transmissions are 50lbs heavier than 5spd trannies, eg the Aisin AZ6 and the Tremec T-56 are 125lbs compared to the Mazda 5spd RWD trannies which are approx 75lbs. I expect that a 6spd AWD tranny would be even more than that. Automatics are even heavier and they still sell them in sports cars(with the obvious factor of lesser performance). 50lbs even over the front axle isn't a killer but it will degrade the performance in some way.
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IDK, putting 50lbs on tranny and get AWD system? I think, that's well worth the sacrifice. I'll lighten up other parts to even it out (cf Hood, alu wheels, seats, fenders & etc). Now, just say they used upgraded ver of Aisin AZ6 into FT86 and weights 125~135lbs. Now, iirc STI tranny, you're looking at 175~185lbs (190 max). In my view, that's well worth weighted.
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Originally Posted by Allch Chcar
Subaru isn't known for light weight compact cars in my humble opinon, because they specialize in building sedans and crossovers aka SUVs all with AWD. That is the current US market as it stands. Toyota does have a history in the US, albeit not recently, of lightweight compact cars. So we shall see, Ichitaka.
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In current US, you're right. Subaru doesn't have lightweight car... but look at the history and other world. I'll give you few examples.
*Impreza (GC) that thing was weighted around 2780~2850 lbs. US only had 2.5 liter NA, but other world did have 2 liter turbo ver which still weighted around 2800lbs.
*Pleo which is pretty much successor of Vivio. Now, they're Kei cars, so you know they're lightweight. Also to add in Kei car R1, R2, Lucra, & Stella.
*Justy... yes, they still make Justy over there too (but pretty much Daihatsu have it as Sirion).
*Toyota, Subaru & Daihatsu did compact car called Toyota bB, Subaru Dex & Daihatsu Materia (pretty much same car)
All these cars are lightweight cars. Now, not cuz we don't receive it in US, doesn't mean they don't make lightweight cars.