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Originally Posted by ichitaka05
2GR-FSE would locate in same spot as an H4 boxer engine & reasonably compact? Yeah it might sit in same spot as an H4, but I don't remember 2GR been compact? If you were talkin' bout 4AG, then that's different story.
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The new -GR series Toyota V6s are very light and yes, reasonably compact. Not as good for weight distribution as a boxer engine, but still very good. Good enough that I seriously doubt most people could discern a handling difference.
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Originally Posted by ichitaka05
Yes, I gotta admit that 2GR is proven powertrain, but I don't think it's easy, inexpensive. If they really wanna go w easy inexpensive engine that is proven powertrain would be 4A & 3S or even new block 2ZZ will do (yes, I know 2ZZ is FF engine). Why they wanna put heavier 2GR?
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Well.. you have to look at this from an engineering cost standpoint.. The 2GRFSE is already developed. It's done. All the R&D costs have been covered, its long-term reliability is established and there's no additional cost to using the engine beyond simple manufacturing costs as if it were in an IS350 or GS350.
Developing a new H4 (aren't they? They're not just throwing a stock Subaru 2.5L in there, right?) means R&D costs, tooling expenses, parts-sourcing and development and so on..
So.. yeah, it would be easier and cheaper to just throw a developed, smog-certified powertrain into this bitch.
4A, 3S and 2ZZ are all OLD engines. They won't meet modern emissions standards.
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Originally Posted by ichitaka05
Well, if they don't come w 2GR engine in this car, then put one. You're engine expert right? I'm pretty sure you can do it and I'm sure you'll enjoy more than pancake engine.
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You wouldn't catch me dead, doing an engine swap into a brand-new car!
I've done the V6 in my MR2 and it's made the car an amazing daily driver, highway car and twisty road warrior.. Far superior powerband to either the stock 5SFE or 3SGTE. Excellent drivability.
If Toyota brings the FT86 to market with a modified, revvy or turbocharged H4.. I'll be happy enough with that.
