[SpeedR]

Originally Posted by SVTSHC

I don't agree with your "inner idiot" your inner idiot is just that, an idiot. You claimed FWD sucked for performance driving, I proved that it doesn't. You likely don't actually track drive or instruct anything and are pulling this 100% from your ass (Hell even if you were an instructor that doesn't mean you know what you’re talking about. My friend’s wife is a Skip Barber instructor and sure she can drive, hell she's an INSANELY good driver but she doesn't know a thing about how the vehicles work.) Some of the issues inherent with FWD vehicles are present in both RWD and AWD vehicles as well. Wheel hop happens with rear wheel also, the need for an LSD isn't lessened simply because the driven wheels are at the back now, about the only thing you DON'T have to worry about is torque steer. You can get a FWD vehicle to hang its tail out with the best of them reverse staggering your wheels. You reverse stagger wheels in a FWD vehicle if you feel you need the oversteer, you stagger wheels on a RWD vehicle to cut back on oversteer. You set up your suspension up to assist with the toe changes caused by the vehicle unloading some of its weight during hard acceleration (for example, one of the things I did in addition to adjusting my alignment settings was I set my SVT up to be an inch higher in the rear.); just like on a RWD vehicle before you hit the track you'd be in better shape if you gave yourself a bit more negative camber to get rid of the factory propensity to understeer.

In other words, just because you have to do something different to the other doesn't mean its better. It means you have to do something different; you're still making modifications.

How can FWD be equal to RWD in terms of performance driving? Easy, you spend fricken money and put work into your car the same way you spend money and put work into your RWD or AWD car. Like I said, stock for stock I could put money down that the ST would beat the FRS around a track. So if that's your 'focus' then you just lost to one.

Edit: Dunno why I'm bothering though, if there's one thing I've learned its that when people so far gone in their stubborn mindset see an arguement that differs from their own they don't waste a single second considering it.

Look there are 3 basic setups FWD RWD and AWD of the 3 (all things being equal) the least desirable for performance driving is FWD. Hello you cannot buy a less desirable setup, its last, the worst way to go, usually that means it sucks. In looser world maybe it’s the best thing ever. But in the real world it sucks. It’s OK I have a FWD DD.

I do have some experience with fast Focusssss I helped (not much but some) build the ZX351 [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzpc_Km41PE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzpc_Km41PE[/ame] I am filming part of this and at about 20seconds in you can see my M Roadster just behind the white car. Notice we had to convert it to RWD to make it fast ……..LOL…….. JK it was fairly fast in its various turbo incarnations but it did have some wicked TQ steer.

Look if you want to go along deluding yourself that they the same you go ahead but I think you know they’re not equal you just don’t want to admit you got all bent out of shape over nothing.