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Old 09-22-2014, 04:35 PM   #14
Manji
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Originally Posted by Tcoat View Post
Can you explain more in how they still interfere? (Not sarcastic! I really would like more info).
I explained it in another thread a few months ago under my previous account (diss7) but the nanny police had a whinge at how dangerous it is driving the car without any aids or abs. My car has 16,000kms on it, almost all of it has been without the fuse in place. I enjoy the car more.

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Originally Posted by tennisfreak View Post
Pulling fuses and pedal dance is overkill for just wanting to drift around for fun.

Holding the trac button works just fine.
Depends on what you're trying to do. Those settings allow some oversteer, but will still cut in if you really dial the angle on.

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Originally Posted by mav1178 View Post
Not true. I am able to do plenty of slides and manji with just pedal dance.

-alex
As above. It will allow oversteer, but not big oversteer. Your video, the first slide would've engaged something, you just mihght not have felt it. If you looked down at your dash, the naughty light most likely flashed. On your other slides, the angle was minimal so it let you get away with it. Try some runs with your current settings, then with the fuse removed; if you have a good feel for the car you'll notice the difference, it'll carry speed better in high angle situations, it'll feel good, and then you'll realise that with the fuse in place, it is applying the rear brakes with higher angle.

I tested this exhaustively when I first got the car. Everyone said that pedal dance was all aids off except abs, but my experience was that there's still something that will cut in at high angle.

Don't ask me the technical reasoning, because I don't know. All I know is what I experienced, and I also know that the other drift guys I talk to have had similar experiences and don't run the abs fuse either.

Here's some vids of me holding the car on full lock through a few sections, all in 3rd gear. Even with pedal dance setting, it would panic at this lock, and it also didn't like lock to lock switches. With the fuse removed it feels like a normal FR car; that's why I never put it back in.

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