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Old 09-02-2014, 12:25 AM   #63
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Originally Posted by @Art_Mighty View Post
So I went from an E46 M3 to an FRS (which actually oversteers more then the BRZ) exactly because it did the very thing you're complaining about.

The FT86 platform car's aren't like AWD cars (or most RWD cars for that matter). When driven correctly they rotate. The front end digs in and the rear slips out a little. Here's a car that damn near does exactly what you tell it to do. You have to manage weight transfer with this car. The only reason why that rear end stepped out was because either you were transferring weight forward (stepping on the brakes / lifting off the throttle) or you didn't transfer enough weight back.

When you screw up driving this car it lets you know and it does so in a way that dosen't kill you. It's exposes the the ability (or lack thereof) of the driver.

Every AWD car I've ever driven understeers. Even car's like M3's and 370z's have some understeer built into them because very few drivers know how to safely manage oversteer. Subaru added understeer to the BRZ because they felt their customers would prefer a car that behaved a little more like an AWD car. Eventually Toyota did the same with the GT86/FR-S for the 2015 model year.

Toyota GT86 @ TopGear on Vimeo

I think you should buy a used BRZ. Leave the suspension alone, buy some stickier tires of the same size (for your safety) and learn how to drive it.
The E93 M3 oversteers like a mofo if you switch TC off... just saying... lol

Difference in power to the FR-S I guess...
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