[Dave-ROR]

Originally Posted by Maps316

That makes sense, thats the thing I was a bit foggy on, i didnt know if it would be cheaper to send cars over land or sea. Thanks for clearing that up.

As for the port, doesnt Toyota have a port in long beach so couldnt subaru use it or not?

The Altair Leader should haul 6,200 cars. Those are not all FR-S/BRZs assuming it's hauling anywhere near a full load of cars. That means a lot of non FR-S/BRZ Subarus.

IMO that makes it VERY unlikely that they'd use Toyota's port as all of their agreements with shippers, ports, lots, etc for all of those other Subarus would have to be dealt with.. All to deliver several hundred BRZs to the same port as the FR-S. That's very unlikely IMO.

It seems much more logical to me that they'd drop off the 4,000 or whatever random subarus, plus however many hundred BRZs off at a Subaru port.

There's no evidence that the FR-S ships from the Subaru port either(makes sense though, but shipping it to one section of a port versas another for a Toyota carrier isn't very complicated).

On a global scale it may make more sense for FR-S/GT86 cars to be shipped via truck/freight to a Toyota outbound port in Tokyo or elsewhere in Japan and then shipped on a Toyota carrier to a Toyota port and Subaru handles all of the Subaru cars in their existing distribution network.

Somewhat unique situation as I highly doubt anyone cared enough to track this stuff before.

We will see when they arrive, but it likely doesn't make financial sense to ship 4,500 or whatever Subarus to Long Beach and deal with that paperwork vs just having the ship go to their WC port.

And that still doesn't address the EC ports and that trip around South America takes a nice bit of time.

While the Altair leader is a Panamax ship in Beam, shorter than panamax in length it has a massive 34.5M draft (~113ft) which is way too deep for the Panama Canal.