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Old 08-23-2014, 07:04 PM   #273
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As much as I love the idea of an LSx swap now (especially Vorshlag's/cf6mech's build and its' super high quality engineering/design and how they go about doing it) and really believe it's the best choice for the simplest, most reliable and smartest (best bang for the buck) engine swaps, I still kinda think just buying another car might be a better alternative.

Meaning...after all said and done: an Frs ($20k) and complete swap with all subsystems (another $20k at least) would run at least $40k. And that doesn't get you anything else. You'll have to spend much more on proper wheels and tires (not even an RB kit), suspension, aero, a stronger rear end and half shaft, etc etc. Then even after all that (which would be at least an additional $10-20k), there is still a lot of work to do to make it handle good around the track and most likely won't be as good as some other car around a track. Basically, you'll be in the hole $50-60k minimum for an LSx FRS with questionable track and handling abilities.

Or, you can sell the FRS and just buy a used Cayman or even an older used 911 (996 I believe is in the affordable price range yes?) for $20-30k, or even up to $40 or $50k if you want to spend bit more (but for non-rich people, I think 20-30k is realistic/feasible). I am not knowledgable with Porsches, all their past models, which are the best buys and best years, etc, so I am no expert. I've only read a little bit here and there, and watched a few videos on them. But, what I gather is that this would be a good route and option (instead of doing an LSx swap). ....get a used Cayman or 996 gets you one of the (if not THE) best handling track cars ever built! You get a nice lightweight chassis with a 300hp engine, some of the best balanced handling cars ever conceived and only for $20-30k! That's the price of an LSx swap in itself; or, $20-30k cheaper than a said n done LSx FRS! Not to mention Everything on the car will be native and also well built with the highest of quality standards. The suspension, drivetrain, wheels, tires, brakes, chassis, balance, weight, etc etc etc are all built around and with the engine and overall car and chassis. Additionally, you can smog it and register it with no problems in Cali (good luck with this with an LSx swap lol).

It's easy as selling the FT, then buying a used Porsche, then having fun with it right away from the first day owning it, you can even go to a track the first day and it'll handle super well out the box ...vs...frs, do the swap, figuring out any and many problems that arise, going to the track and trying to dial in the suspension and grip for the LSx's massive power, and maybe able to have fun with it after a month or 2 of working out all the engine and suspension kinks. Anyways...I think you get my point.

I'm sure the 450hp LSx FRS will be faster than a Cayman or 996...but only in a straight line on a drag strip I bet. A Cayman or old 911 will for sure spank an LSx FRS around a track. 300hp is plenty...especially in a well engineered porsche.

Yes..I'm sure the Cayman or 996 will be expensive to maintain...but remember, you still have that extra $20k in your pocket from going for the Porsche instead of doing an LSx FRS project

Don't get me wrong though...I'm still really loving that LSx swap idea and will follow that Vorshlag build.

....but, for me, if I ever have that kind of extra money to spend (for a big swap mod or a better car)...I'd just sell the FT and get a used Cayman or older 911(996) and be happy

....anyone else agree and think the same? (..in that, getting a used Cayman/911/996 instead of doing a $25k LSx swap, is a good/better choice)?
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