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Old 04-25-2012, 05:31 AM   #4
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^^^You talk about the Cobalt SS like it's some terrible platform for performance driving..

You do realize the cobalt SS managed to hold the record for fastest production FWD car around the nurburgring

It lapped the nurburgring faster than the Boxster S (something this car won't come close to doing.

It lapped Leguna seca faster than the Evolution 9..(Something this car won't come close to doing)

It lapped VIR faster than a GR WRX STi, 335i M Sport, Audi S5 and Gen Coupe 3.8...

The Cobalt SS was a highly accomplished and highly capable car, drivetrain and platform..To deny it THAT is just a huge glaring "I don't know a damn thing about it other than people consider it cheap and it used to be a cavalier"

Seriously sir, don't spout off about cars you really have no idea about other than "herp derp it's cheap" because the Cobalt SS, much like the neon SRT4 were both cars that were cheaper than this "thing" and offered a hell of a lot more to the "performance enthusiast" crowd than any scion ever released.

The car was arguably ugly...arguably "cheap" in interior quality.. and everyone owned a cobalt....But it was fast, it produced power, it's engine and gearbox were sound and capable...and it's chassis was equally able..the same goes for the Saturn Ion Redline...and even MORE SO once it became a Turbocharged car instead of supercharged.

Lastly..To say "Subaru wanted to give you the better blank slate" Thus far even the IDEA of producing moderate power numbers is still up in the air. The inclusion of direct injection just to get the crazy old man behind this car's goal of 100HP per liter (of which Direct injection was NOT necessary they just didn't want to build too good of an engine apparently) has been the single greatest obstacle in determining this cars ability at producing power in the aftermarket (of which this car was supposed to be the "clean slate starting point" for)....

And with "common" upgrades....not silly things like bra and plastic-laminate liners to protect from rocks..the AVG things you'd expect to find in 50-60% of the various models sitting at the lot..Can see a final price tag of 30k quite easily on this car...Especially considering the automatic ups it from 25k to 26k tax destination tags add another grand onto it and apparently the radio will be roughly another ~1000...you're looking at a 6 speed Auto with radio and nothing else costing 28k....
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