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Originally Posted by s0sl0w
It's a difference that can be felt even by a merely decent driver.
Yes, in a single corner instance (straight, corner, straight) The BRZ may feel like it understeers relative to the FR-S
However in a sequence of corners the BRZ's chassis remains composed whereas the FRS starts getting out of shape and overly tail happy. It's fun if you know how to handle it but it's also slower.
Saying the BRZ understeers is a gross misstatement however, relative to just about any car you'll drive the BRZ is not what you'd call understeering car even in the single event scenario. Any understeer is easily sorted with the gas pedal.
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Duly noted. Guess I need to start looking for some BRZ springs.
Edit: I take it back. There is an SAE definition for the terms as well as a specific test. I'm slapping my forehead for having forgotten it from school. Simply put, with the vehicle going in a fixed-radius circle, while gradually increasing speed, at the limits of adhesion, what does the driver have to do to maintain the fixed radius?
Turn more = understeer
Turn less = oversteer
I've been practising this in empty parking lots since I first started driving the car but failed to remember the reason why I did it the first time - tuning the suspension of our formula SAE car in college. DUH!
(yeah, I finally played that card)
Sticking to my original argument, the FR-S is pretty damn neutral. Pick up the speed steadily and one feels all 4 wheels let go at the same time.
This is a very specific test and, by itself, is not a fair way to describe overall handling. Compared to any other reasonably accessible performance machine on the road, out of the box, nothing comes close to either of these cars.
...IMHO