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Originally Posted by strat61caster
I'll go paragraph by paragraph.
1. That is exactly the point of the opinion being discussed, I don't understand why y'all think it's the worst opinion in the world.
2. Yes it plays well, but does nothing as spectacular as something else, someone who focuses more on performance results or overall practicality will come to a different conclusion, hence the point of the opinion being discussed.
3. Yes I did sell it short, it is still however slower than the cars you and I mentioned. No argument the chassis is extremely capable, I already said as much. Bottom line is most people don't go to the track and fewer want to spend hundreds extra on quality tires and even fewer want to risk blowing a motor or drivetrain out by adding forced induction.
4. I'm not sure how this fantasy car argument works, I agree that the Toyobaru may be the best RWD chassis available today.
5. I don't think your wrong, I think the opinion from Motorweek is correct, for most people the TC is a better option. I already voted with my wallet, have you?
Bottom line is that if you want to go fast out of the box the FRS comes up short. If you want practical and 'sporty' (grounded to the ground) it comes up short once again. Not many people are searching for a practical true corner carver most want one of the other two I just mentioned, something like a Mustang or TC fits the bill better for less money.
Here's a link to the 10 second comment that spawned this thread, it's about 24 minutes in:
http://video.pbs.org/video/2365251632/ |
That's exactly why the video's analysis is BS as I had discussed with others earlier in the thread. The FRS has a better power/weight ratio and higher absolute horsepower value than the TC on both counts. Hence MW is full of shit in their analysis saying buy the TC over the FRS which is underpowered.
Yes, I have an FRS. I got it for the mileage and cargo capacity in a balanced package that won't put me to sleep. I already have sharper cars that exceed in particular areas better but the overall balance and capability of the FRS makes it the more enjoyable everyday drive that you just want to keep driving and not get out of even though in some ways it's a softer car. It's the Goldilocks porridge. Just right. Which doesn't mean can't be improved as we already seen that happen from the factory.
Another area where none of the cars you mentioned can touch the 86 is high speed aero. It cuts through air like a red hot ginsu through melted butter. Try equaling that in a Mustang, Genesis, TC or Fiesta. All bricks. So if you want absolute speed on the track, you can do it with this car.
Sure, there are tons of Corvette and Porsche owners that seem incapable of breaking 60mph in the fast lane too. However, this car was specifically designed to carry a set of four track wheels and tools in the back as well as having clearance and reversible headrests for a helmet. If people choose not to take advantage of a car's inherent design abilities, that shouldn't take anything away from the design itself. Which just goes to show comparing it to a TC is nonsense.
Here's the TC buyer to clear all this smoke and mirrors BS up from MW.
"Dad, I'm turning 18 and I want an FRS."
"No, this is your first car and it's going to be a Corolla. Cheap, reliable."
"But dad, a Corolla is weak sauce, other kids will laugh at me!"
"Alright, you can get a TC but that's as far as it goes."