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Old 07-10-2014, 12:14 AM   #4516
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Originally Posted by Simon99 View Post
Vlad told me clay bar affects my C Quartz so I guess it affects Opticoat aswell
Small correction Simon, you can't clay bar C.Quartz FINEST (who reads warranty cards lol). Opti-Coat 2.0 or Pro can be and needs to be clay barred.

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Why use ONR in the summer ? I though this was meant as an in the garage for the wintertime type of thing ?
ONR is great but since your car is wearing FINEST, I would use CarPro Reset and have your Cancun foam party

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Originally Posted by HeadBanger View Post
I wouldn't use the ONR without at least having some decent wax on the car. The reason it works is because of the O-C.
Incorrect statement. Short answer: Rinseless approach (say ONR) is safer than regular soap in a bucket.

Long answer: I quote Dr. G. (owner/founder) of Optimum....

"From the keyboard of David Ghodoussi, when asked to describe ONR VS soap. good information to know and share with your customers.
Soap is a blend of surfactants that are designed to emulsify (dissolve)
oils into water. There is nothing in soap to help with dirt removal.
Foam is a by product of soap and it is caused by entrapment of air in
soap and water. People perceive foam to create lubricity and correlate
it to concentration and cleaning ability of soap. In fact, manufacturers
add foamers to increase foam to capitalize on these misconceptions.
No Rinse is based on reactive polymers that have the ability to bond to surfaces as well as dirt or oily particles. These polymers have much greater lubricity than soap and form a film around the particles as well as paint to protect from marring. The concentration of these polymers is very high which is why only 1 oz. per wash is needed. In fact, when people use 3-4 oz., they complain about the excess lubricity and streaking! If anyone washes half their car with no rinse and the other half with soap, over time, they will see marring on the soap side only!That is why many add no rinse to their soap bucket before washing which
works well. However, because of the nature of these reactive polymers,in concentrated form, they react with soap and foaming agents to form a gel (you can try this by mixing soap concentrate with no rinse). That is why we can not add foaming agents to no rinse!
The Water softening ability of ONR comes from bonding and removing minerals from water which takes place by the polymers in No Rinse in the same way as it bonds to dirt or other surfaces. The polymers remove minerals from water by bonding and trapping them similar to how they remove dirt particles and drop them down to the bottom of solution. There is nothing in soap that has that ability hence dirt or contaminants float in the solution. The reactivity of the polymers come from having both negatively charged and positively charged groups in the polymer which
gives it a zwitterionic character. It can therefore bond with any particle whether they are anionic or cationic in nature.
With the new no rinse wash and wax, we have further increased the
lubricity, gloss, and protection. There is no product out there that can
match the performance of these products."
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