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Old 06-28-2014, 02:32 PM   #41
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Originally Posted by gramicci101 View Post
It doesn't matter what you choose to call it, it's still fraud. Which can be a misdemeanor or a felony depending on the state's laws and the value of defrauded goods or services. It doesn't become not illegal just because you don't want it to be.
Two things:
1 - I have read many cases on this forum where a dealer refused to work on a modified car whether they intended to deny warranty work or not.
I can see numerous reasons for this:
A - the dealer cannot perform their stock diagnostics on a car that is not nearly 100%. Even a non-stock CAI can make the engine diagnostics give different answers that lead to a misdiagnosis.
Now if they refuse to look an a CEL because you have tints, then they are playing hard ass.
B - They INTEND to deny warranty work, and are hoping that you just take your car somewhere else instead of going through the trouble of chaning back to stock parts.

SO NO just changing the car back to stock before a dealer visit is NOT neccessarily "fraud" in and of itself.

2 - Dealing with a dealership for warrantly work is similar to talking to the police. NEVER give any information that is not required to give.
Even if you think you are helping, "anything you say can be used against you".
Is it "fraud" to not provide any information about a failure of the car? - NO.

So to change back to stock tires & brakes, drop the car off with a simple "Clutch seems broken" and there you are. Fraud? - No.
In fact you are more in violation of the law by accusing someone of committing fraud then by what I suggested above.

AND $1100 for a new clutch and the labor to replace it? I think the OP got a deal.
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