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Old 04-12-2012, 04:38 PM   #104
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Originally Posted by serialk11r View Post
It wouldn't be cams, a high strung cam has limited VE at low engine speed because it ends up pushing charge out of the cylinder. Intake tuning + intake cam advance can attempt to fix this but you're going to be limited by the exhaust gases "poisoning" the charge.
You say "It wouldn't be cams", then go on to describe exactly why it probably *is* the cams.

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Because the cam appears to be a high rpm cam, there are no variable intakes, the torque down low approximately matches the torque peak, and the peak torque is quite low by performance engine standards,
143 rw lb-ft out of 2.0 liters is pretty tremendous, actually. Scaling by the same amount to equate 173rwhp to get 200hp at the flywheel, we get 165 lb-ft at the engine, 83 lb-ft/liter!

2.0 S2000s typically put ~135 lb-ft to the wheels.

[edit]Oh, wait, looks like you might mean that the peak torque *rpm* is low. IMO, peak torque rpm is usually a useless number. The engine pretty much makes the same torque from 2600-3200, and then from 4600 up to 6400rpm. It's not like they tuned for maximum torque at 3000. The tiniest, most real-world meaningless wiggle up top would change peak torque rpm from 2800rpm to 6400rpm, without changing the character of the engine's output.

Logical conclusion to me is: They good job maximizing power from 2.0 liters and limited to 7400rpm peak while also giving good low-rpm driveability.

I've seen "the dip" on a ton of dyno graphs, IMO it's a low V.E. region due primarily to cammage.

I don't see the dip as a problem, nor do I see it as something that's going to be easily gotten rid of...
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