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Old 08-08-2010, 06:09 AM   #58
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Originally Posted by Lexicon101 View Post
Either of you guys want a hug?
If not, how about a nice hot mug of shut the hell up?

Exactly what are you hoping to accomplish with this debate? Neither of you is gonna suddenly go "Oh. Guess you're right. Never mind anything I said for the last four pages." Toyota's not gonna read your forum posts and go "Oh shit, the random internet ranter is right!"
Blow me. Then you can blow Dimman.











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Originally Posted by Dimman View Post
Why did they need to create the brand, though? I understand the youth not wanting the mommy and daddy cars. But that had little to do with the Toyota brand. It had to do with every car in Toyota's recent line-up being agonizingly boring. Adding the tC as a Corolla coupe and the xB as simply a bB Toyota would've been fine.

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The future will tell if Scion goes the way of Saturn, Pontiac, Plymouth, etc... all branded as being entry-level youth oriented vehicles.

An interesting side note is that Scions may have a bit more 'cool' factor in Canada for the time being, since they are about as common here as some much more exotic machinery. Just from the rarity and mystery factor. 'What's that car?'

That's just the thing. It's not the cars, it was the brand. You are looking at it as if the whole buyer base were enthusiasts. They aren't. Adding those cars would not have achieved what Toyota wanted, by no means whatsoever. By the time Scion came about, The Supra had ceased to exist. The Celica (a really legitimate to the Integra at the time... pity the never made a GT4) was on it's way out, as was the MR-2 (Girly as the spider was, it really is a great drive and an excellent tuner platform). Why? Nobody was buying them, not even the demographic that they wanted.
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