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Old 08-05-2010, 11:40 PM   #31
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Not the same class of car at all. SC is a high end GT, what they need is a small, light, sexy, quick, roadster.



I would shoot somebody at Toyota. Scion had a good thing going, but the people behind it just sat on their hands and dwadled. Scion was supposed to change up every 3-4 years, the tC has been on a year cycle and it's their best selling model. WTF?

Scion has potential. I think it can be saved. Just needs the right car. The FT-86 nor the Supra isn't it though.

Something on the FT-86 platform though?

http://www.ft86club.com/forums/showthread.php?t=324



It's not a rebodied nascar, It just has a nascar engine... which I think is cool as fuck. Irrelevant, but cool as fuck.

Scion doesn't go after the enthusiast, it goes after the "hip" crowd, and while I am no fan, the have garnered quite an enthusiast base and they have done some fucking amazing things with the AZ engine platform.

Fuck the product planners and marketers behind Scion.
Very few of the media-darling 'Scions' are actually AZ powered (just checked out their site a while back), basically the road-racing ones that are rules-mandated. And one of the drift cars, but that's obviously had other extensive mods, and the motor is pretty far from stock. When it comes to making unlimited 'Scion' power they go 2JZ (I think I just died a little inside...) or 3RZ.

The other thing is these are factory-supported 'privateer' teams. Part of Scion's 'grass-roots' marketing blitz. "Look real racers are using Scions!" The teams that are using the AZ are using it because they were given it, and support for it. Not because they chose it.

The Scion 'sport-compact' scene is completely corporate-driven and feels 'wrong'. It's all artificial. That is something about it that really rubs me the wrong way. Lexus was at least driven as much, if not more by the engineering and product. For example the cars people could actually buy.

Ok so Foust's car isn't a full-blown NASCAR, it's just a RWD tC powered by a NASCAR V8. Still way closer to NASCAR than Scion.

You get where I'm coming from anyways.

Scion is a brand where they're trying to force it upon people instead of producing excellent product and letting people come to them.
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