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Originally Posted by koyv90
Really? How is the engine not shit? Lets look at the whp the mpg, the tq, all those factors and tell me the engine is great. It was okay. Not amazing or anything in comparison to other engines.
rx7 now there was a engine.
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You're helping his argument..
1: You're comparing a 1.3L Twin turbo engine..to a 1.3L N/a engine...
2: You're badmouthing a 1.3L N/a engine that makes 230~ hp, on a forum that is in support of a 2.0L N/a engine producing 200HP..
3: The advancements made by the renesis engine managed to make the Rotory engine a semi-livable engine to use..It could be driven 100k+ miles without being treated like a glass slipper and didn't need a rebuild every track day.
4: How many engines do you know of that weight 247lbs full assembled?
I personally do not like Rotories, i think it's what's holding mazda back in a big way yet it's keeping them afloat in the same manner..I think the technology will NEVER see proper advancement because the industry won't support it..
HOWEVER it is not a "shit engine" in ANY light....MORE can be said for the 13B-Renesis than can be said for the Toyobaru's FA20 engine as far as "whp" and "tq"...Or do you continue to forget that the CLOSEST sized naturally aspirated engines on the market right now, are the Fiat 500 1.4L i4, and the Honda Insight 1.3L i4...Both of which make under 100HP.
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Lets not even go into the fact that the rx8 had numerous engine rebuilds and swaps due to defects like flooding.
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Defect like flooding?
Thats a USER error..People need to learn a little more about engines before they bad mouth them, especially throwing around the word "Defect". People who own rotary cars more often than not treat them like they were a mid 90's Honda, which translates to drive it into the ground with minimal care/prep/maintenance and then complain when it breaks..
You don't change a Ferrari's oil late, you don't drive around your air cooled porsche if the oil pressures out of wack, but no one bothers to find out "how to properly maintain their rotary powered car" So it becomes the cars fault when an easily averted problem arises.
Sounds a lot like the people who continuously say "This Dumb Computer"
You might as well tell Glock their pistols are defective because someone shot themselves in the head because Glock had to put that damn "trigger" on the gun.