[NemesisPrime909]

Originally Posted by suaveflooder

The fact that you used the word "dude" tells me a lot of what I need to know about you, "brah."

You highlighted one portion of my post and neglected the rest. I understand that not everyone wants a race car (there will always be nice, old, gray haired men and woman who will never take a 911 over 65 miles per hour), but when the car is marketed as an autox/race car, it's counterproductive to add useless aero, regardless of the weight (and because it does add UNNECESSARY weight).


As you pointed out,
- The trunk runk can hold 4 tires, a jack and a toolbox

In addition, the car is:
- Lightweight
- Nearly a 50/50 weight distribution
- low center of gravity
- High revving
- Humps on the front end so you know where your tires are going
- Small seering wheel
- Excellent/none mechanical steering feel.

That sounds like a pretty damn good race car to me….from the factory. Toyota set out to build a car that was pretty much track ready, but still comfortable enough for DD use and something you could drive to the track and back.

And what is the BEST way to make a lower powered car faster? Is it by adding weight? Nope. E36 M is a GREAT example of a car with lower power that uses balance and lack of weight to it's advantage. When is the last time you saw BMW throw 50lbs of useless weight on their cars? (only thing I wish was more common was the sunroof delete option) I would love to get ahold of one of the lightweights that were produced.

I think you missed my point entirely. I'm not uptight at all, but when TRD comes up with something, I expect "Toyota Racing Development" not "Toyota Rice Development."

I'm all for the color of the 1.0 as the yellow looks SICK! I'm more dissappointed that TRD isn't making the car lighter, or adding more power. My origional post was pointing out that the OP just sold one car to buy the EXACT same car but with a body kit.

This is a forum, and this is simply my opinion. Thankfully, last time I checked, I was still allowed to voice that on here.

Did I miss a memo? Is there something wrong with using the word "dude" now?
(Also you misspelled bra. A bra is an undergarment worn by women to support their breasts.)/joke

The more I read your comments the more it looks like your only real gripe with this car is it's body kit.

I mean, take the kit away and you have a yellow monogram series.

In addition, the car is:
- Lightweight
- Nearly a 50/50 weight distribution
- low center of gravity
- High revving
- Humps on the front end so you know where your tires are going
- Small steering wheel
- Excellent/none mechanical steering feel.

Everything you listed is still there...it just has a body kit.

That sounds like a pretty damn good race car to me….from the factory. Toyota set out to build a car that was pretty much track ready, but still comfortable enough for DD use and something you could drive to the track and back.

It can still be a track ready daily driver. As I said, 30lbs won't really matter. In fact I say it adds to the challenge.

And what is the BEST way to make a lower powered car faster? Is it by adding weight? Nope. E36 M is a GREAT example of a car with lower power that uses balance and lack of weight to it's advantage. When is the last time you saw BMW throw 50lbs of useless weight on their cars? (only thing I wish was more common was the sunroof delete option) I would love to get ahold of one of the lightweights that were produced.

When has Toyota ever said anything about DEFINITELY increasing the power output or making it faster? All I remember them saying is "maybe" depending on the competition somewhere in 2015.

I don't doubt the E36 M's a balanced car. That was never in question. BMW's add weight to their cars every year. this is because they want the car to be a jack of all trades. They want them to safer, they want them to be cleaner, they want them to be more technical (M5). Power just comes with the territory.

But remember what Tada said, the 86 was to be a bit back to basics. It's supposed to be grounded yet have room for the owner to improve in any way they see fit. He didn't want it to be a world-beater (otherwise we would've gotten another LF-A).

The 86 is the canvas, we are the brush.

I think you missed my point entirely. I'm not uptight at all, but when TRD comes up with something, I expect "Toyota Racing Development" not "Toyota Rice Development."

This furthers my thought of your only gripe being that it has a body kit.

But here's a question for you. What did you think of the FR-S project car that this one is based off of?



is that one RICE too?

I'm all for the color of the 1.0 as the yellow looks SICK! I'm more dissappointed that TRD isn't making the car lighter, or adding more power. My origional post was pointing out that the OP just sold one car to buy the EXACT same car but with a body kit.

Again, you make it sound like your only gripe is that the car has a body kit.

Also don't be disappointed. you already have your car. it's not like you were chomping at the bits to buy another.

If the OP wants to update, let him update. Plenty of people do this, If I'm not wrong, this is how vehicle leasing came about, to better expedite the process.

This is a forum, and this is simply my opinion. Thankfully, last time I checked, I was still allowed to voice that on here.

Freedom of speech =/= Freedom from Consequence

You can say whatever you like, but in-turn people have the right to react, be it positive, neutral, or negative.